• ravhall
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    4 months ago

    So shut down the internet… FOR THE CHILDREN

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      4 months ago

      No. You can say that about so many laws being made, but telegram simply hosts the most vile shit.

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        4 months ago

        So you’re saying we should shut down any service that allows encrypted communication? Because any service that offers encrypted communication is going to be enticing to someone who commits crimes.

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          No, we should shut down any service that refuses to take action against its users when presented with proof that they are distributing child porn.

          Encryption only offers so much plausible deniability. Once law enforcement gains access to one of these channels, they have proof of what’s going on, and the content is all hosted by Telegram. When Telegram refuses to cooperate and remove this content, they become complicit in distributing it.

          Encryption isn’t an excuse to violate the law. If Telegram’s policy is not to remove CSAM, then they are a criminal organization.

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            4 months ago

            We should shut down any organization that doesn’t cooperate with police when people are breaking laws or just the laws you want them to help enforce?

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              4 months ago

              No, that’s not what the person is saying in the slightest. Just read their comment again, it’s actually very clear.

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                4 months ago

                Creating a Telegram Channel to help underage victims of rape in Idaho get abortions out of state without their parent’s consent is also a crime. Would you want to shut them down for allowing those groups?

                If Telegram is indeed knowledgeable of specific groups distributing CSAM, goes into that group and views the material to confirm, and still does nothing about it, then yes… that’s pretty terrible. However, it’s law enforcement’s responsibility to find those people and arrest them. If Telegram is shut down, there will always be another method. TOR, popup forums, file sharing sites like MEGA.

                What I’m saying is focusing on the communication method is like trying to kill a hydra.

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                  4 months ago

                  Again: not what the person said. They said that if someone proves that you host CSAM, you should take it down.

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            4 months ago

            lol. Technically if they could answer it, they should be the one investigated

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          4 months ago

          Are you honestly asking me to link you some child porn?

          What the fuck is wrong with you?

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              4 months ago

              Well, those are the words you typed. You literally asked me to link you child porn. Hence a moderator deleted your comment.

              You’re disgusting.

              Blocked.

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                4 months ago

                My point was you were saying something existed for which you had no proof, nor is likely that you’ve ever witnessed it.