• Flying SquidM
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    21 day ago

    Which takes a lot of time and money and manpower. It also requires people who understand how to manufacture those things.

    Don’t pretend this would be either easy or doable within any sort of short timeframe.

    • @ravhall
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      81 day ago

      It has to start somewhere 
      It has to start sometime 
      What better place than here? 
      What better time than now?

      • Flying SquidM
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        31 day ago

        It has been started. It is happening. But it will take a very, very long time before the West will be able to rely on themselves and not China for important manufacturing.

        • @masterspace@lemmy.ca
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          01 day ago

          It has not been started in any serious way. There is basically no incentive to manufacture most goods in the US.

        • @ravhall
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          -11 day ago

          I don’t recall hearing anything recently about a push to manufacture inside the states. Just a lot of pushing to places like India.

            • @ravhall
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              -21 day ago

              What else besides microchips?

              • @nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                31 day ago

                I like how you’re making light of microchips so small only a handful of plants in the world can make them but yeah no big deal. But also lots of renewable energy plants, and companies, those are very ubiquitous.

                • @ravhall
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                  01 day ago

                  I’m saying that “made in USA” is not a label I see very often. And each one of those American owned companies should make an effort to put that label on their products.

          • Flying SquidM
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            11 day ago

            There’s a little bit here and there. There were some federal laws to incentivize microchip manufacturing in the U.S., but it’s not really an overall thing.

          • bluGill
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            01 day ago

            There has always been a push to manufacture in the states. The first buy American law dates back to 1933 (or at least the first I found with a quick search - feel free to correct me if you know more). George Washington wore a suit from New England at his inauguration to encourage American manufacturing. Things have been moving elsewhere for a long time, but there is still a push to build in the US, and new manufacturing in the Us is created all the time.

            • @masterspace@lemmy.ca
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              11 day ago

              The series of free trade agreements the US negotiated with everyone they could would say otherwise.

            • @ravhall
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              01 day ago

              Created as fast as it’s lost?

              • bluGill
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                11 day ago

                Created faster than lost overall. There is more total manufactured in the US than at anytime in history. However population is up even more than production and jobs in factories are down by an order of magnitude (because of automation) and so it seems like we are producing less.

                • @masterspace@lemmy.ca
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                  11 day ago

                  If you’re producing less per capita, and consuming more per capita, you’re producing less overall for the purposes of the discussion around relative pain of cutting off Chinese imports.

                  • bluGill
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                    01 day ago

                    That sounds like a “how to lie” with statistic fact. You can use per capita or total production numbers to make different arguments.