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        2 months ago

        Do you loose all your savings and fall into years of debt if you have to spend a week in the hospital?

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            2 months ago

            Its relevant. Having reduced buying power yet not risking loosing all of your buying power for the rest of your life is generally preferred.

            Most people don’t realize how terrible it is in the US. Lots of migrants to the US searching for better pay, but they don’t realize how miserable life in the US is because most of their paycheck gets eaten by rent, transportation to work, healthcare, etc. And as soon as they manage to save anything, it all gets wiped out by a single hospital visit.

            I don’t think Hollywood (how most people lean about the US) does a good job conveying how most people live in poverty in the US, how miserable they are, and how many of us kill ourselves because of the conditions.

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      3 months ago

      That’s true but the logic applies. The EU is part of the imperial core that eats from that trough and in turn supports its maintainer. It is simply following the US’ lead.

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        3 months ago

        Labor conditions in the EU are better than in the US and better than in China

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          3 months ago

          Depends on which part of the EU you are in. There is a reason the poor of Poland move to places like the UK.

          Though this is neither here nor there as the original allegation was slave labor, which is simply a lie.

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              2 months ago

              Ah yes, the US would absolutely be the place you’d go for factual information about their biggest geopolitical rival. 😂

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              2 months ago

              A US State Department “fact sheet” from 2021 that cites no sources. Amazing.

              Anyways, Chinese companies make electric cars in modern factories with normal workers paid for their labor. Y’all are peddling in orientalist assumptions that only work on people that know nothing at all about the country aside from, say, US State Department single page propaganda pieces.

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                  2 months ago

                  Neither of those are exactly quality organizations whose claims should be taken at face value, though Amnesty International has made no claims about slave labor and HRW doesn’t itself have any statements about that so far as I can tell.

                  Though this is beside the point as, again, we are talking about EV manufacturing. Please do your best to not support the orientalist implications throughout this thread. If you would like to make a specific claim, go ahead and do so, but be ready to explain it with more than NGO or State Department name dropping.