• @McScience
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    Are you suggesting we just let Putin take over Europe Nazi-style or is this comment unrelated to the article?

    • JohnBrownsBussy2 [he/him]
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      2810 months ago

      The annexations in Ukraine are illegal, but Russia annexing 5 oblasts and Ukraine being locked into a status as a neutral buffer state is not exactly a Hitlerian take-over of Europe.

      • Farman [any]
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        Its not ilegal in russia. Legality is not a real property of things its the opinion of the guy with the biggest army in the area. Thinking otherwise is brainworms

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          No, annexation is illegal under the UN charter, of which Russia is a signatory, and wars of aggression are criminal in and of themselves. I’ll condemn the illegal annexations performed by Israel and other states, and Russia’s annexations fall under the same boat.

          To be even more clear, I do think that Russia would have won fair referendums in Donetsk, Luhansk and certainly Crimea. I doubt that would have been the case for the other two oblasts. Still, all of those annexations were illegal. Just because the neo-cons have flouted the UN charter in favor of the ad hoc “rules-based order” doesn’t mean others should.

            • JohnBrownsBussy2 [he/him]
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              710 months ago

              What’s your point, that Soros is a hypocrite? That was always obvious. Is he more of a zionist than the average American lib though?

            • Harrison [He/Him]
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              It’s always funny seeing people post that image without the context that Palestine declared war on Israel alongside all its neighbours and attempted to push the Israeli population into the sea.

              • mkultrawide [any]
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                And Ukraine kept shelling civilians in Donetsk despite signing Minsk 2.

                And that’s not even taking into account that Israel has continued to annex new land despite it not being a war.

              • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                1310 months ago

                The correct response to a settler colonial ethnostate being founded in your region by Britain is to try to destroy it.

                  • CredibleBattery [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    i wouldnt call it an attempt, Israel is sure as hell succeeding in killing and displacing a lot of Palestinian civilians and also running the world’s largest open air prison

                  • Awoo [she/her]
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                    Ending the existence of an illegitimate country built on stolen land has nothing to do with genocide. You’re doing the fascist ethnostate thing where you act like a state and its people are the same thing. States come and go, people remain, the ending of a state has nothing to do with harming people.

              • Awoo [she/her]
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                110 months ago

                “The indigenous americans shouldn’t have fought back against the settlers if they didn’t want to get exterminated.”

          • Farman [any]
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            310 months ago

            If russian law considers they are part of russia and the russian army is siting there russian law applies there. Thats how it works. If another army is sitting there then legality is whatever those other guys say.

            Pretending otherwise is denying realty.

      • @lonke@feddit.nu
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        not exactly a Hitlerian take-over of Europe.

        Only because they lack the ability. Civilian massacres like in Bucha are happening and have been happening throughout the war.

      • @mayo@lemmy.today
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        I don’t know a lot about the region, but I think this gives Russia access to some large oil deposits and excellent agricultural land. It will also give them more strength in the region. I think it’s worth extending the war to try and limit those gains. It’s a good situation for the US.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      I’m from Europe, this is fucking nonsense. Please can the US piss off and leave the rest of the world alone? You caused this in the first fucking place and then you act like you’re on moral high ground by supporting the continuation of it with the deaths of tens of thousands of people over lines on a fucking map. It’s abhorrent. Let’s not get started on how the US very obviously blew up German infrastructure to cripple Europe and vassalise it. Don’t pretend that any of your support is for any of our benefit thanks. You’ve literally ended european prosperity and fucked the continent for the next 50 years.