• ByteOnBikesOP
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    Wild that Fox News can practically say the hard R on Biden but every god-damn news channel is tippy toeing on Trump and sane-washing his bullshit

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        Yeah we don’t call it that here in the states. I’ve heard ‘the r word’ but never ‘hard r’. We reserve that terminology for the OTHER hard R.

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            That was my first guess. Its amazing how people think referencing the first letter a word starts with is somehow different from just saying or typing it.

          • It’s the main offensive word for black people. In general use it ends in an “a” sound, and can be positive neutral, or negative. In racist use it ends in the “hard R” and is always negative. Since you are not from the US, I would say you probably shouldn’t say it at all, just like I did not in this post.

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              Aah ok. That was a lot of walking around hot porridge as they say here, so:

              Nigga: can be friendly

              removed: the real racist bad word.

              You americans are bizarre (or should I say “the B word” 😁).

              Edit: lool my post got sencored! Now nobody will ever know…

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                Did you just write r*moved?! With a hard R?!

                Though frankly, I used to think the whole moral panic around the word was just more of the typical American puritanical bullshit, until I watched Django Unchained - that movie made me realise it’s not just an insult but its use was intimately linked with rampant dehumanising (successful, I should add) and that part is still alive and kicking. In my part of the world the equivalent would be something like calling a holocaust survivor oven fuel. You just… don’t. Don’t say it.

                Fuck all forms of censorship otherwise though, definitely.

                • ᴍᴜᴛɪʟᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴡᴀᴠᴇ @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  It’s definitely a wild etymology ride, and linguistics is one of my favorite subjects as a layman.

                  Congrats on your evolution!

                  I have a friend and his friends who call me by the word, in a friendly way. I don’t say it even though I have slave heritage (black grandmother).

                  And yes fuck censorship.

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                    Speaking for wild etymology, a while ago I learnt that the word “bulldozer” originally meant “a dose of bull-whip”, and guess who was the target of said whipping…

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        I suspect OP is using it wrong. Usually “the hard R” refers to a really bad “no-no” word.

        Though the phrase has probably become a slight meme due to Linus from LTT getting the phrase’s meaning wrong in the same way you guys have, but on a live broadcast.

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          13 hours ago

          Any “no-no” word?

          You can actually write one down, we’re not in kindergarten 🤷🏼‍♀️.

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            I can, but I don’t want to because it’s disrespectful.

            Also, I think you’d even get thrown out of middle school for saying this one.

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              It’s a Biiig difference saying a word and using it for treatibg someone with it.

              Or so I think.

              I do understand you want to curb usage of some words, but outright forbid them is not what I am used to where I live.

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        Yeah, the short of it is that it used to be used clinically to describe developmental disorders but fell out of use around the mid-90s because, like so many other words, it was used maliciously to the point where it lost its original meaning and context.

        If you were a 90s kid, retard and gay were as close as you could get to actually swearing without getting in trouble and basically carried the same cultural weight as outright slurs. The stigma around being gay was so bad that in the 2000s they made up a sexuality to describe men who were straight but liked to shower and dress in nice clothing so that they wouldn’t lose their jobs. And the stigma around mental needs little explanation, I think. It wasn’t that long ago that they were electrocuting people and cutting out parts of their brains for being sad or having a stutter.

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          i remember going on a school trip to san francisco in the 90s. one of my classmates kept saying “that’s so gay” about everything she didn’t like. we only let her go two shops (while gently pointing out the SF-specific merchandise) before i had to ask her “you know where we are, right?” in her credit, i never heard her speak that way after that incident so
          people can change

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            And it’s not mumbo jumbo but something that actually works!

            I hope it did for you ❤️ !

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      A big part of it is he’s doing what Israel wants…

      Israel kept bombing past the ceasefire start, but look at MSM and everyone is saying Iran violated the ceasefire when they retaliated for Israel not even stopping for it.

      It’s decades past time to recognize that Israel’s government has bought off the majority of both of our parties along with our media.

      We can’t just keep ignoring it or screaming “both sides” when people point it out

      It’s not gonna fix itself, and we can’t fix it till we admit it’s a problem

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        I have a slightly different take.

        He is doing what Russia wants which actually means get Israel to stop bombing Iran because Iran is an important asset to Putin. In the mean time he can look good for ending the conflict. At least thats what daddy Putin told him.

        Iran was informed about the US attack. They made sure there were no casualties and the US promptly proclaimed the nuclear treat was now gone. Then Iran did a symbolic counter attack because all people (including Iran citizens) expected a counter attack.

        The message seems to be directed at Israel “we solved the problem, now you can stop bombing”

        Except Trump is learning the hard way that Israel is just using him for the fool he is and is in no way going to stop their purge. Basically calling the bluff because Netanyahu stopped caring about how they are perceived a while ago.

        Israel played there cards very well realising that Russia is in to much of a difficult position with Ukraine to start a war with them to defend Iran.

        I have zero proof of above hypothesis but its what emerges in my autistic head if i do go over all the details and in context it just makes a lot of sense to me.

        There is a word for this framing of reality and its hypernormalization.

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          Netanyahu stopped caring about how they are perceived a while ago.

          I don’t think he ever did. This guy was burning effigies of Rabin in 1995 because he didn’t want Palestinians to have rights.

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          I appreciate both your take and the inclusion of “zero proof” and “hypothesis”. It tastes better with those grains of salt.

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      Because Trump is the abusive ex that you don’t want to piss off because he has thousands of guns and has a hair-trigger temper.