That puts us at 0.006% of the global population. How did I arrive at 500k? I kinda made it up based on carnivore study populations, but its super duper tiny. I looked everywhere, I can’t really find a solid estimate. But we are totally in the dozens of us category.

I NEVER meet another zero carb carnivore anywhere organically. Plus there is huge stigma for being a carnivore. EVERYONE thinks I’m crazy.

  • Omnivore - 73% - 6,000M
  • Flexitarian - 14% - 1,100M
  • Vegetarian - 5% - 400M
  • Pescatarian - 3% - 250M
  • Vegan - 3% - 250M
  • Zero Carb Carnivore - 0.006% - 0.5M

Using ipsos (broad strokes good enough) for the other eating pattern data

It’s fine to be a minority group. Live and let live.

There are some people who simply cannot suffer us in our little corner of the internet at all. My poor little community script runs every day and bans many accounts for just downvoting all the posts in the community. https://discuss.online/modlog/696952

I’ve dug into the many of the non-obvious-sockpuppet accounts, and it seems most of the hate directed at us comes from our nearest neighbor at 3% total population. A group 500x more popular.

I really wish we could just be friends, let’s agree that whole foods, totally unprocessed is good, and leave each other alone as allies in improving everyone’s health. I’d like that. This childish animosity doesn’t help anyone.

Perhaps this is just the cost of being a small fringe eating pattern, easy target for other less small groups to hate.

Eyeballing daily active users on the fediverse it looks like we have about 7,000 unique users every day. There are about 3 carnivores - which puts us at 0.04% of the lemmy population.

  • xepMEnglish
    31·
    4 days ago

    Glyphosate for industrial agriculture alone affects all life in so many negative ways it’s staggering. And that’s just one industrial herbicide.

    But what exactly are you trying to say here? Since all you’ve done is quote Jet, I’d like to politely ask you to actually put your point into words instead of sounding like Yoda :)

    • Pommes_für_dein_Balg@feddit.orgEnglish
      6·
      4 days ago

      I’m not trying to debate here. You guys are weird, but that’s fine.
      I am a hunter, I also eat meat and so do my cats.
      I just found the juxtaposition between carnivorism and the quote “live and let live” funny.
      Cause the exact definition of a carnivore is killing to live.

      (On a related note, wouldn’t “scavenger” be a more fitting term? Cause most people don’t kill their meat themselves, they “find” it after it’s killed by someone else.)

      • jet@hackertalks.comOPMEnglish
        3·
        4 days ago

        It was a good observation!

        Yeah, scavenger is a great term, another one I’ve heard thrown around is lipovore to emphasize the human focus on fat.

        When you go hunting what food do you take with you? Can the animals detect you better based on your diet?

        • Pommes_für_dein_Balg@feddit.orgEnglish
          3·
          4 days ago

          Usually self-baked whole grain rye bread with fresh cheese and herbs.
          I could eat that for days.
          And I never noticed a difference, but I can’t imagine why. If they smell anything that isn’t their own species, they’re on max alert.
          What does make a difference is not using any scented hygiene products the same day, on you or your clothes.
          I’ve switched to only using hand-made unscented soap for basically everything. Where I live you can get lye easily at the baker.

          • jet@hackertalks.comOPMEnglish
            3·
            4 days ago

            You make the bread sound amazing!

            I’d love to see your soap making process, it’s not something I’ve ever thought about.

            • Pommes_für_dein_Balg@feddit.orgEnglish
              3·
              4 days ago

              You make the bread sound amazing!

              I hope I didn’t tempt you to fall off the wagon.

              I’d love to see your soap making process

              I really just stuck with the basics from Chemistry class.
              Slowly mix 4 parts of 10% lye solution with 3 parts luke-warm vegetable oil and stir until it’s soap.
              You have to do it outside, use only glass containers, and wear protective goggles and gloves, but that’s all there is to it. You can go completely overboard with twenty different oils and fats but if I want something fancy, I can buy it.
              I’m not sure there’s any place you can still buy 2-ingredient-soap.

              • xepMEnglish
                3·
                3 days ago

                I’m lucky, I can get 2-ingredient soap where I live, from a brand called Shabondama. I can recommend it.

              • jet@hackertalks.comOPMEnglish
                3·
                4 days ago

                I hope I didn’t tempt you to fall off the wagon.

                haha, I’ve been clean for a long time now, it takes alot to make me go on a bender.

                I really just stuck with the basics from Chemistry class.

                Your chemistry class was so much more fun then mine, we never covered soap.

                Thanks for going into the details!

      • xepMEnglish
        3·
        4 days ago

        That’s very cool. I’d love to learn to hunt, and also do field dressing. Maybe some day!

        I think Dr. Shawn Baker popularized the “carnivore” moniker for the diet, in his book. It’s more a description of the diet, since carnivores are generally defined as eating 70% or more of their diet as meat. Other names for it I’ve heard are “animal-based”, “zero carb”, or “low carb healthy fat.”