First time playing an “evil” campaign, with a friend running a Durge.

We’re failing so miserably in so many comic ways.

We killed most of the origin companions because they’re mostly good two-shoes. When we were done only Lae’zel and Astarion were left.

In Act 2, because we murdered Shadowheart in Act 1, we were locked out of killing the Nightsong because we didn’t have Shar’s Chosen with us. Even after killing Isobel, somehow we ended up with both Jaheira and the Nightsong at our camp, through bad decisions and forgetting to save frequently.

Further, Minthara was glitched and missing in Act 2 after our Durge romanced her in Act 1 but chose not to give in to her urge and kill Minthara because we wanted to recruit her Overly Attached Girlfriend self to our party.

By Act 3, our Monk said “I feel like we’re bad at being evil.”

I sort of do, too. Being a goody-two-shoes in real life can make it hard to know how to be a sinister mustache twirling villain.

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    Well to start with maybe broaden your idea of evil. Just killing and murdering is evil but there are lots of other ways to be evil.

    What about slowly turning good characters bad by slowly encouraging them to do small wrongs. Like convincing them to pick someone’s pocket. Or justifying theft and other petty crimes.

    What about looking the other way when criminals commit crimes and just saying… Not my problem.

    Start thinking about long term goals and then add narcissism and selfishness to every choice.

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      Yeah, Shadowheart is a member of a stunningly evil cult, not sure why anyone would think she was good.

      Plus those bangs, you can tell she’s pure evil incarnate.

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        I’m well aware she is evil, just couldn’t stand her and forgot I needed her to kill the Nightsong. Whoops.

        Similar story with Gale, he became insufferable at a point and so killing him in an evil run was way on the table.

        Wyll was a victim of our raid on the grove. Karlach we killed for the Tyr guys, and then killed them, too. Halsin left because we destroyed the grove.

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      What about looking the other way when criminals commit crimes and just saying… Not my problem.

      I always make my paladin play the lute to distract the druids so I can steal their idol. It makes me laugh because he isn’t technically breaking his oath but boy is it skirting that line.

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          If you perform a song using the perform action everyone within range comes to listen. If you pass a performance check they hang out until you stop playing. You can use this to distract everyone and then your rogue can slip in quietly and do his thing.

          You don’t need to be a bard, just need the perform action so have your best charisma character or tiefling go talk to Alfira and pass her checks to get musical instrument proficiency.

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              Well, they do. You have to scoot real quick on the rogue and make sure you can pass a conversation check on the paladin in case the guards come asking questions but totally doable. You have to do all of this after you out Kagha as a shadow druid or the druids go crazy and murder the tiefs. So either do this on an evil run or make sure you get rid of Kagha.

              Nowadays I don’t even use the paladin though since I’ve been soloing honor mode. I just pop an invisibility potion and jump onto the podium to steal the idol and while hiding I steal the idol then quickly go to camp. If you put the idol in the chest at camp and then fast travel to the waypoint the guards won’t ask you questions and you can just go to the cave and give the idol to Mol.

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      Yeah, I want to try and do an evil Wyll Origin run. Let him make decisions that sound good on the surface but lead to the worst outcomes.

      Gotta finish two other runs first, though.