• OpenStars
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    5 months ago

    Oh some aren’t, for sure, but then when their words are copied verbatim they become so, unbeknownst to their original writers. So yeah, they aren’t “all” bots, but some are.

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      Of course if you’re going to wax philosophical, what’s the difference between us and bots if we are both programmed? Maybe a bot is 100% driven by their programming while a human is 99% programming and 1% genuine creativity and intelligence that just slips through the cracks in our programming on occasion when we get particularly honest with ourselves.

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        5 months ago

        Perhaps that’s why people often say “they are bots”, even when some are not bots, bc they might as well be?

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            It takes supreme effort to rise up from hollowing ourselves out to be a receptical for whatever authority figures want to fill us with. Why, we might have to watch a whole 5-minute video!? (Tbf, usually it takes a lot more than that, like at least 7-10:-P) It’s easier to simply parrot the words given to us by people quite a bit dumber than we know ourselves to be. They are quite aware of that, and make great use of it.

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              It is as you say. Are you reading my mind, comrade?

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                The Truth is surprisingly difficult to find, buried amongst so much active disinformation, but once we do, we can never unlearn it (…I hope, though I probably should learn to pretend like I don’t, to survive the fascist regime to come).

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                  The fascists do NOT have this timeline on lock. Although they will probably make some noise one last time before disappearing into the sunset.

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                    We shall see. I was very wrong, thinking that Hillary would win for sure. Perhaps I am wrong about this as well - fingers crossed 🤞.

                    The thing is, on the Right they put in actual effort to get shit done, while on the Left we whine and complain why it isn’t perfect already. Never mind actually reading a linked article, on Lemmy Reddit 2.0 here we don’t listen, we wait to talk. Correct or no, the former attitude will win the day. At least in the short term. Maybe after that, leftism will win out overall, but somehow that ends up just as another form of fascism as well (don’t ask me to explain that, I have no idea why, but I have both tremendous respect for e.g. the Lemmy devs offering their code for free while also not respect for administration of their instance to support repressive regimes doing e.g. genocide, which yeah the West is also doing genocide, but at least we the people don’t support it, e.g. by banning people who speak out against it!?).

                    I really wish that what you say will come to pass. But… (1) despite what happens in this next election, the overall trend is towards fascist policies, in the election after that, or the one after that, and too the entire government shutting down every single time it needs to pass a budget causes fatigue where people just lose all hope, like torture to break someone down by softening them up before the big ask; and (2) Monday’s SCOTUS ruling has already happened. We cannot go back in time, the only way is forward. I feel like people are forgetting that it happened, bc it’s just so shocking. But it did. It’s like climate change: it’s not only going to happen in the future, it’s been happening for the last decade. Do you realize that the USA is already a fascist nation, even if it has been thus for less than a week? Yeah, Biden may refuse to use that power, or perhaps he will go ahead and use it after all (quietly?), in order to keep Trump out. But either way, democracy has already failed. Our choices now are what flavor of fascism we would most enjoy moving forwards.

                    Edit: Sorry this is depressing. It was depressing every other time it happened to nations in the past as well. But those (nations) who refuse to learn from their history… are doomed to repeat it.:-(