I’m excited for this. Still don’t like that they didnt include AUX and FM radio support. Otherwise seems like a great device. The camera especially has gotten a big improvement. I’m still rocking my Fairphone 3 and the camera on that has been pretty poor. I’m on vacation atm so I’m taking a lot of photos so the poor camera has been a sore spot for me.
While the price is steeper than before, I think they are making the right move by positioning themselves as a more premium product because they can’t compete with the cheaper phone makers like Huawei and Xiaomi. If they can implement Klarna or something like that to make the higher price easier to manage, I think they could do great things here.
Still though, would like to see return of AUX, FM and maybe more support or even a full launch in US? Those are my wishes for them over the next few years tbh. I don’t think asking for AUX and FM support is too much to ask at this price point. I know its not as popular or as cool, but should still be a fundamental part of what this device offers.
I noticed they listed Klarna as an option on their website
They could also buy it at a reseller that supports Klarna or similar.
I would like to see fp4 getting a camera upgrade. unlikely to happen however(
The improvement over the 4 seems very minimal? I don’t understand what justified this new version, it’s just better specs without fixing or providing a different solution to notable issues like the size (a smaller version would have been great, the 4 is huge) or the absence of jack (didn’t expect it, but could have been a pleasant surprise). Seems like a financial decision similar to any other phone maker and not very aligned with the sustainable values.
what is the motivation behind not adding jack
I think simplifying the design thinking that most of their non-nerd ecolo customers have moved passed this archaism. Eventually it was the main grudge against the FP4.
Wired headphones are more eco-friendly than their wireless counterparts. They have less circuitry, they lack batteries, and they’re much harder to lose.
my mom is the definition of a non-nerd and she has multiple pairs of wired earbuds. normal people still regularly use wired headphones.
and for the enthusiast side of things, almost all of audiophile equipment is wired. i couldn’t even imagine what an eqivalent to the 7HZ Timeless would look like and what it would cost.
no one is really profiting from this design change besides people who bought into wireless stuff immediately after the iphone 7.
P.S.: don’t get me wrong. i like the convenience of bluetooth, but if you want to listen to music the way the composer listened to it, ya gotta do it without compression and without the cheapest drivers fairphone could scrape together.
In the FAQ they said it was to save space
€700?
Yeah nah, hard pass. The €470 for the FP3+ was already somewhat above my personal limit for a smartphone. Especially given that I install custom OS’ any way to remove even more Google crap, so their extended support is irrelevant to me.
Extended support actually matters no matter what OS you use. Firmware update can only be pushed by the manufacture, not even fairphone themselves can update the chipset firmware without Qualcom, let along lineage or calyx.
This is also why security-focused OS, like graphene and calyx, put phone in extended support after the OEM drops support for the phone. Although they can keep android up-to-date on the surface, the underlying firmware will no longer be supported with security updates.
This is why fairphone 5 picks a industrial chipset with very long support terms. So that your phone can stay secure for longer period of time.
The SOC used in the Fairphone 5 will receive 5 years of support from Qualcomm this will also benefit custom OS’. And the FP5 isn’t just about longer support it’s also about repairability, sustainability and good working conditions. Yes it’s expensive, but so are other high-end smartphones that are even more expensive and only last 2 to 3 years.
Got one.
me too, are you happy, noticed anything strange? don’t have a case yet and I’m afraid to drop it all the time.
I'm a solutely happy with the phone. The camera ist perfect for me and I got a clear case (non-fairphone company). I don't know what you mean by 'strange'?
Nice thanks for your answer. Same here. I got a Fairphone case but the case kinda limits you from using the finger print reader nicely. It ones got hot for me when downloading updates. What I mean with strange is that some people were reporting bugs or other odd stuff with Fairphone 4. One thing in the fp5 for example is that the stereo speakers aren't equally loud. which is odd.
Looks good!! Have they given UK price/availability?
Found the answer! According to GSM Arena, £620.
Uh crap, I just got a pixel… If my wife is willing to take my pixel I might get one (she is sick of her iphone, who can blame her…)
Do they distribute parts to the U.S.?
Fairphone doesn’t distribute spare parts to the US but Murena does.
Nice, cannot wait for Murena to carry Fairphone 5!
Last I checked Fairphone doesn’t support US networks. You could order one shipped from the UK but it might not work outside of large cities, or at all.
Yeahhhh, T-Mobile is the only recommended carrier and that’s still supposed to be fairly rough. When the time comes for me to upgrade I hope that Fairphone supports and sells directly to the US
