With the 2024 presidential race beginning to unfold, Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont said he believes that President Joe Biden will again earn the Democratic nomination — and the president likely win reelection if he runs on a strong progressive campaign.

“I think at this moment … we have got to bring the progressive community together to say, you know what, we’re going to fight for a progressive agenda but we cannot have four more years of Donald Trump in the White House,” Sanders said Sunday on “Face the Nation.”

Sanders endorsed Mr. Biden in April. Sanders referenced several of those issues in underscoring what he believes is the importance of building “a strong progressive agenda” to win the presidency in 2024.

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    I keep seeing this but I’m not sure what you all want …

    • biggest investment in climate infrastructure ever
    • biggest investment in infrastructure since the new deal
    • codified gay marriage into law
    • attempted to forgive $10k in student loan (blocked by republican scotus, still attempting a workaround on interest at least)
    • attempted ban on assault weapons (let’s face it, this will never happen without an act of congress)
    • negotiated drug prices for Medicare (10 drugs so far, a blueprint for more)

    Dude is ticking a ton of boxes. Sure we’re not living in a socialist utopia with universal basic income, etc but it’s been 3 years

    Edit: with a republican congress no less

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      They don’t like Joe Biden because he doesn’t pick losing fights on principle, in general, and because they don’t want to admit that the primary process on the left actually does select for the strongest candidates.

      I get it. I feel the same way at least emotionally. But $1.3 trillion dollars towards climate change and what is almost certainly the most important climate bill ever passed in the world so far is really hard to argue with.

      I would like him to stand up and advocate for court reform. We need to strike while the iron is hot and people are seeing the Supreme Court for the corrupt political institution it always has been. He’s backed down with very little fight on a couple of the things they’ve pulled lately when the Trump Administration would have just kept hammering on passing the exact same laws with tiny changes until they accept it. For example, the opinion on that student loan relief case made this incredibly idiotic argument about how the HEROES Act doesn’t give permission for partial waivers because it only allows a modification or a full waiver and the partial waiver apparently doesn’t count as either of those. I think you should have just come back and said well all right then, full waiver and total jubilee. That probably would also have been struck down but it would have really shown how vapid and hypocritical the court was.

      The word neoliberal has basically lost most meaning. But everything they accuse Joe Biden of being are things that describe Joe Manchin. The guy who singularly keeps killing Progressive legislation put forward by the Biden administration.

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        the primary process on the left actually does select for the strongest candidates.

        Does it tho?

        The 2016 general election was a contest between candidates with historically low favorables It took just 27.2% of eligible voters (in the right places) to put Trump in the White House Clinton underperformed Obama, while Trump over-performed Romney

        If ‘Did not vote’ had been a candidate in the 2016 general, it would have won in a landslide https://brilliantmaps.com/did-not-vote/

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        primary process on the left actually does select for the strongest candidates.

        this seems to imply that the democrat party is left, but it is not.

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        primary process on the left actually does select for the strongest candidates.

        The smugness. Imma vote for Cornel West just to piss you off.

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              Primaries have a purpose. Vote in them.

              Don’t go around telling progressives to throw away their votes and let conservatives win in the general elections. Do that and you’re a colossal piece of shit working for the big bad. I’m tired of people like you helping get Republicans elected because you think principles matter more than the things they exist to defend.

              Linking to clips about an election where literally one of the more progressive democratic candidates of my lifetime lost to Bush thanks largely to progressives failing at the GOTV and a major third-party spoiler candidate. Fuck, man, at least have a sense of self-reflection.

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                Primaries have a purpose.

                i remember the 2016 primary. the purpose was to coronate a candidate i didn’t want.

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                an election where literally one of the more progressive democratic candidates of my lifetime lost to Bush thanks largely to progressives failing at the GOTV and a major third-party spoiler candidate

                gore won florida. the supreme court coronated bush.

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                    Says the guy that would have been perturbed because people complained about King George before the Revolutionary War. People like you prevent progress from happening. Never change, literally.

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                  It’s difficult to believe West is anything but an ivory tower academic trying to elevate his status on the national stage; I know he has a lot of opinion pieces (a lot I even agree with) but has he ever held any office at all? He’s not a real candidate, best case scenario he’s got his own angle he’s working.

                  That’s the best case. Worst case scenario he’s funded by some shady PACs looking to divide the (true) left vote and spoil 2024. You really think subconsciously racist white-America (think NIMBYs) are going to vote for a self-described “non Marxist socialist” that looks like this I have my doubts friend-o!

                  That being said, I support Dr. Wests voice in the conversation and hope he can be an intelligent advocate for thoughtful policies, even if he’s not ready for the presidency.

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                    All that could be true, but that’s not what’s driving voters to his candidacy. This country needs a fundamental overhaul of its infrastructure to prepare for the climate to come. The duopoly will be over, it just hasn’t recognized it. The goal is to pull Biden and the corporate Dems as far left as possible to the needs of the citizens. We can do it by threatening the vote, not by falling in line to maintain this flawed electoral system. I understand it’s frightening, because the threat of fascism is real. But as Mark Watney says, “Fortune favors the brave.”

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      He’s also yet to declassify weed even though he carrot on a sticked it leading into the general and then again before primaries. He could do it any time and has not.

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        If Biden were to make any such change to Marijuana scheduling by executive order, the next president would just undo it the same way. Worse still, the GOP would use such a move as a talking point that Biden is soft on crime and trying to get their kids on drugs, which the GOP base would eat up.

        In fact, though, the Biden administration actually is making progress on this front. Some time ago, they requested that U.S. Department of Health and Human Services study whether or not Marijuana should be rescheduled. Just a few days ago, HHS sent their recommendation to the DEA to reschedule marijuana from a Schedule I drug to a Schedule III drug. The DEA has sole authority on drug scheduling.

        “While HHS’s scientific and medical evaluation is binding on DEA, the scheduling recommendation is not,” the HHS spokesperson said. “DEA has the final authority to schedule a drug under the CSA (or transfer a controlled substance between schedules or remove such a drug from scheduling altogether) after considering the relevant statutory and regulatory criteria and HHS’ scientific and medical evaluation. DEA goes through a rulemaking process to schedule, reschedule or deschedule the drug, which includes a period for public comment before DEA finalizes the scheduling action with a final rulemaking.”

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        They love dangling that carrot stick before elections. Only for it to ripped right back election day and tucked away for the next election

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        Good point, forgot that. At least the states (the good ones) have taken on that mantle

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        Tell it to the Midwestern white women.

        The men, too, but let’s be real they’re a lost cause unless Hell freezes over and the Dems nominate someone with a gun collection.

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      I keep seeing this but I’m not sure what you all want …

      Really simple. Pay close attention.

      Some sort of universal healthcare Stop attacking telework as much as he currently is Stop using draconian border policies that are just as bad as Trump’s if not worse Stop attacking primary challengers like he did with Marinanne Williamson. You don’t have to like her, but the Biden Administration doing this is childish as hell. Stop running. He’s 80 years old. He’s part of the problem with politicians being too old to hold office. Biden should’ve just passed the baton instead of being stubborn like Diane Fienstein and Mitch McConnell. He also could’ve played hardball with Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin and he didn’t and the infrastructure bill was greatly watered down for it. Biden is also more anti-weed than he should be. Sure, there was that thing where he lowered the weed scheduling, but he’s made it clear before where he stands on weed and it’s dumb.

      Now as for some of your points.

      “attempted to forgive $10k in student loan (blocked by republican scotus, still attempting a workaround on interest at least)” He literally can forgive it all with his presidential powers. This is a classic carrot and stick routine and you fell for it.

      “Dude is ticking a ton of boxes. Sure we’re not living in a socialist utopia with universal basic income, etc but it’s been 3 years”

      He also ticks a lot of boxes that makes him a glorified 80s republican. All of the stuff I mentioned requires no act of congress and he has more than enough political capital to do. And even if he did all of this, he still wouldn’t be all that progressive. I really wish you neoliberal would stop with this nonsense.

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        Spot on.

        I wasn’t a fan of how Biden quashed the railroad strike, and his response to the Maui wildfire was lackluster.

        I want someone who fights like hell for my interests, not a goddamn third way triangulator.

        No more hugs.