• LordBelphegor@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Lol the great firewall of China totally doesnt monitor your private chats and censors them live.

    Sometimes ya’ll are a parody.

    inb4 whataboutism, i dont condone US surveillance but it stills pales in comparison to that done by the CCP.

    • robinn2 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      1 year ago

      inb4 whataboutism

      speech-r smuglord

      You’re not “inb4 whataboutism”, you’re the one who brought up China when the meme had nothing to do with it in order to downplay U.S. surveillance. We can talk about this point, but don’t talk about anticipating “whataboutism” when you’re the one doing it.

      As for Chinese surveillance (in your words, “by the CCP”, although the correct abbreviation is CPC, and the CPC would not be performing this), China has fewer police per capita than the U.S. by a decent margin and fewer surveillance cameras in relation to its population; the Chinese “spy balloon” the U.S. shot down (it wasn’t really [1] [2]) was a mirror of the U.S. mass surveillance balloons used on their own population, although only one got massive outrage/reporting in the country (this occurred by pure chance). You of course cite no evidence for your points, and yet confidently put down the ridiculous notion of not considering surveillance in China to be “worse than” the U.S. No, the “great firewall” does not monitor private chats (the U.S. monitors private chats as well, so where is the “pales in comparison” thing), it is specifically the wall of “information” that is blocked rightfully, whereas monitoring is done separately (through the GSP or elsewhere).

    • Clever_Clover [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      1 year ago

      Private chats are only censored if you are using weechat to talk to someone since they just suspend you if you break their rules

      If you’re using other ways to communicate, say through matrix or most other things, a firewall can’t do shit, and this is ignoring the fact that many people in China use vpns (they aren’t illegal to use) to bypass all blocks on western services (whatsapp or whatever)

      and keep in mind that things are blocked with a denylist, not an allowlist, so if for example I hosted a small irc server (oreven something like a lemmy instance) anyone in China could easily connect to it and exchange messages, unless it gets reported somehow and then blocked, which is unlikely if we’re talking about something relatively obscure like irc or lemmy

      Basically, practice good opsec, I don’t like the NSA having my messages in the same way that I don’t like any government having them.