And this is the Hexbear reply thread. Please be very wary of the extremism and bigotry and know that they are largely defederated

  • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Yeah I’ve told a couple people about lemmy, and gotten the same reaction. I can ignore it and troll them for fun so I stick around, but the others I show lemmy to never do.

    Now I say “nah I don’t really use social media, I have a Mastodon acct and I’m on this knockoff reddit thing” so I can distance myself from telling them about lemmy as much as possible.

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      I might tell people about lemmy.cafe - it’s literally the only instance that has defederated from all of the big three. You still have to block trolls and communities that you don’t want to see, but that gets someone 99% of the way there already towards eliminating the most extremist content espousing violent rhetoric - like at that point, I would imagine that X has more of that then lemmy.cafe does.

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        2 months ago

        Hey that’s good to know, thanks! I’m on db0 and “we” refuse to defed hexbear and frankly I’m somewhat dependant on .ml myself as much as I hate that.

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          2 months ago

          You can user-block it in that case (username -> Settings -> Blocks -> scroll way the fuck down if you’ve blocked many individuals and communities as most of us have), but you’ll still see the comments from those users, just not the communities themselves (e.g. in your All post feed) and replies to you won’t trigger a “notification” event anymore (unless they specifically tag your username).

          Honestly the main thing though is simply knowing about it. Once you know, it is so easy to avoid - but for a first-time user, how are they supposed to know, while they are still learning every other thing about the Fediverse, all coming at them at once? Some of us enjoy (endlessly) fiddling with configuration settings, but mainstream people do not.

          Lemmy.ml is significantly more complicated yeah - there are several communities there, and also not everyone who has a lemmy.ml account is a troll. However, conversely 99% of the time when someone (who is not on lemmygrad.ml or hexbear.net) is trolling me, they are from lemmy.ml, so for the sake of my own sanity I found it helpful to block the entire instance. I still see their posts, I still get their replies, and it is still shocking each time to think “how can an adult be talking like this?!”, but even so it does help a lot.

          I will say that it is unfair to the users remaining on lemmy.ml though, to become so isolated, for the sake of their admin’s policies and just b/c many trolls migrated over from hexbear to it. But… imagine that you created an account on Truth.Social, or on X, and then it enshittified out from underneath you - for Lemmy.ml it’s definitely not your “fault” (b/c that instance for a long time was marketed as the major “default” one), but it still affects you. So I do painstakingly explain this to people who are still there.

          Being on lemmy.dbzer0.com, you can help the migration process by e.g. posting not only to lemmy.ml communities, but each time also cross-posting to a community located elsewhere. e.g. firefox@lemmy.ml has counterparts elsewhere e.g. firefox@lemmy.world. The cross-linking imho increases “discoverability”, so that people know what other things are options for them to post to (and read from) themselves in the future.