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You guys have much bigger problems to worry about right now tbh
Yeah, if the fascist overthrow of democracy only had tariffs to worry about, we’d be doing well.
Not my president 😡
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(I live in Germany)
What’s a better way to build up local manufacturing? The oligarchy says this is a good idea for solar panel & EV imports. What’s the difference?
In the US.
Companies will find a way to apply this also to the rest of the world, citing some bogus reasons.
It’s like how back when the Euro or the Pound were worth nearly 2x what the dollar was, a new device or piece of hardware would sell for $399/€399/£399.
I was borderline thinking of re-editing the headline to something along the lines of:
Proposed US tariffs may significantly raise gaming hardware costs for US gamers
But then decided against it as I generally think it’s best to avoid title edits (other than minor corrections/edits that are explicit).
For how much people are worrying about tariffs I’ve lived my entire life with a 66% alcohol tax, 75% electronics tax, 240-380% vehicles tax and recently even saw 150% inflation.
Let’s play a game!
Where do I live?
Turkey for sure
DING DING DING DING YOU WON!!!
Argentina?
Recently 150% inflation, not Argentina, based on the “Recently”
Ooh I’ll play. Australia?
Wow Australia has it like that? Nope. A lot less isolated
Hmmm, wanted to say Brasil, but maybe Sweden?
Close, a country just south of it has a LOT of my people, they even call their capital an extended territory of theirs…
Brazil inflation had been really good in the past year or two, so I would not say is it.
It ain’t gonna cost me shit because I’m spending next to nothing for the foreseeable future apart from necessities, and what little I do spend is gonna be bought as locally as possible. Fuck this country.
Gaymers are the most oppressed group, literally 1984
We as leftists, must organize in ways that match the fascists. Subversion of their goals is our goal. The class and culture war is in full effect and we must not be complacent.
I’m not at all sure you can assume gamers are leftists. An awful lot seem to be pretty hard right.
Yeah, gamer gate was one of the things that lead to Trump being elected in the first place. Plus the outcry that still happens when BIPOC, LGBT, or women protagonists are used. Hell, just look at any steam discussion board sometime and you’ll see it.
As someone who games, gAmERs are the fucking worst
I kinda missed the gamer gate thing, was distracted by other shit and wasn’t gaming at the time. Am I right in thinking it was some kind of misogynist incel bullshit? Like, girls aren’t allowed to play with the boys’ toys?
But yeah, I’ve seen enough stuff on discussion boards and heard enough anecdotes to see that there’s a lot of bigotry in gaming. The hard right are successfully using it as a recruitment platform for kids. Fuckin appalling, but they are well organised and fascists don’t have to worry so much about sectarianism.
I just don’t get how people can’t see that there’s strength in diversity. Like, in gaming you want a team with different skills, abilities, experiences, and characteristics. It’s the same IRL - a diverse community is a strong community.
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go on Counter Strike
constant n words
“your body my choice.”
…yeah, y’all got this. Lmao. Gamers unite! 😂
Omg, are you a professional comedian!!! You could make millions!!! 😂😂😂 thats some original humor right there!!! You genius you
[ignore, need to drink coffee]
Apologies, I’m not on Lemmy very much, nor the gaming community. I’m an American distraught by Trump right now. I’m no communist. Just an impassioned and anxious progressive American. Thank you for telling me.
All good. That’s a fair point.
I am getting too paranoid. :)
Won’t the tariffs incentivise domestic production and give work to more regular folks? There’s also less stuff to be hauled around the world so there’s environmental benefits too. Sounds like a leftist idea to me.
If you gave it thirty years and the entire world paused and waited for us, sure,… but, we have a global economy and old people need medications, cars need chips and batteries. We all depend on each other. We can’t charge a toll and pretend everything won’t see any ill effects
If you proposed something else that would uplift lower classes sooner they’d probably vote for it. What Democrats were offering wasn’t credible enough because people have been deceived for too long.
Tell me you don’t know how the world works without telling me you don’t know how the world works.
Are you arguing that tariffs and other market restrictions are ineffective at incentivising moving of production sites? I guess that’s why Biden lifted tariffs Trump imposed. Oh wait.
Or are you arguing that container ships full of plastic trash are good for the environment?
Are you dancing around the fact that multiple industries have indicated they will pass on the cost of the tariffs to consumers?
They will do what’s most profitable. If domestic production becomes competitive someone will do it.
I’m sorry you’re right, the Republicans have always wanted to tackle that trash and plastic problem. Trump, of course, cares about that. He’s always talked about how much he wants to stop the production and import of plastic junk and pollution, oh wait…
Politicians lie so I’m mostly interested in outcomes, not the narratives that politicians use to make things happen. Why would I care that something I want and is mostly outside of my control happens for the wrong reasons?
We don’t have infrastructure to produce a lot of the components in the things we buy, and even if we did, it would inherently cost a lot more to produce than in the countries that are about to have tariffs placed on them. That the US ever was a manufacturing powerhouse was, in my understanding, a very “place and time” sort of deal after World War II. Not only were all of our competitors recovering from being bombed, but we also advanced to a services based economy very quickly, raising the standard of living beyond a point that manufacturing jobs can typically afford to support. I’m no economist though; I just watch one on YouTube, and “the middle income trap” is a frequent topic.
Tariffs can serve as a stimuli to build out local manufacturing capacity, which sounds pretty leftist to me. I understand arguments for laissez faire policies but at heart they are liberal and not left. It’s the refusal to accept it that led to far right being as popular as it is.
Anyone promising to return people to previously prosperous economic conditions will be popular, even if people don’t know that the promise can’t possibly be delivered. Coal isn’t coming back either, and there’s no “clean” version of it, but if all you’ve done in your life is coal, you’ll vote for the guy who says he’s bringing coal back.
I’m not here to convince liberals that they should try to care for the poor. I’m here to argue that the jig is up - people are voting for literally anyone, including fascists, that promises to change the course.
That second part is exactly what I just said. Is it caring for the poor to lie to them about economic realities, or to raise the cost on everyday items via tariffs when money is already tight? Again, I’m no expert, but I’d rather vote for promised solutions that I understand to actually work rather than the ones that sound good and don’t work.
Piracy 😍
Until untracked VPNs are made illegal due to “security.”
…make your own. Destroy it and remake it with a new IP once every few months, use headscale or something to make managing it easier.
I am this petty, absolutely.
(Or just get everything now, I mean. You got a month. Sorry if you didn’t buy a few hard drives when Trump got elected. Some of us saw the writing on the wall.)
Oh believe me I have. 2 HDDs and 1 SSD. I’ve also been snatching up DVDs of shows from second hand places since streaming services will become untenable soon
Unfortunately, the only hardware component you can actually download is RAM. And increased hardware prices are going to be the primary cost factor.
Then it isn’t so much playing games, it’s the death of the entire industry. If no one can play anything, there’s nothing to sell.
Neato!
Guess I’ll have to keep my steam deck in good working order and enjoy gaming in a tribute sense.
The funny thing is, I believe RAM is actually one component that isn’t manufactured as much in China (compared to other components).
Oh sorry I didn’t read the article. Hardware makes more sense.
‘American gamers must return to buying American for their gaming needs. That’s why I have talked to Microsoft and they will lower their prices considerably. You are welcome, nerds.’ -DT, probably soon
I think the most made-in-America gaming hardware is probably the mac pro
You’re forgetting that they have to import all the components that are inside. Also mine says “Assembled in China”, check yours, lol.
No amount of tariffs would get me to buy an Xbox lol
They targeted gamers
