How about instead of punishing “the poor” with new taxes we just made healthy food cheaper.
How about actually giving people the time to actually prepare a healthy meal.
No one wants to spend 30mins to an hour cooking a good meal when they only get 4 hours of time to themselves a day. Reduce everyone’s working hours and make them actually want to live a healthy life rather than treating them like consumables to be used up by businesses and replaced with their offspring.
This is exactly the kind of thing is expect from someone so far removed from the day to day reality of normal people.
I said it above, but buying the fresh produce and ingredients to cook up a meal, note costs me just as much as it would to go grab fast food. And like you said, it saves me the time and saves me having to be in a hot kitchen for an hour when it’s 35⁰ c outside.
I mean it really doesn’t. There’s literally no fast food you can’t do cheaper at home. Sure, you might have to pay a bit more, but you’ll then have at least twice the amount of food.
This assumes you have storage space, utensils to cook with, money for power to cook, access to a kitchen , etc
Obviously.
Living at a hotel is also cheaper then an apartment if we consider the cost of rent, a bed, electricity, water and etc.
But living at a hotel is obviously not cheaper than renting an apartment, and no one would argue that for like 99% of cases. Perhaps for a couple of days, but long term it will get much more expensive.
As with fast food.
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If they’re all very fat, won’t that be better for basting?
What if, instead of perpetuating the narrative of diet culture and “healthy food” vs. “junk food”, we worked harder to provide food for those who actually need food. What if, and hear me out here, we educated people on making healthy decisions and more importantly, maintaining a healthy, positive relationship with food and their bodies?
Isn’t healthier eating more about convenience than education or anything else. If it’s easier for people to eat healthy compared to eating unhealthy, they’ll take that up.
Path of least resistance and all that
That’s a good point, I hadn’t considered that! Have a lovely day.
Meal prep then, cook a big meal or two on Sunday and eat them though the week.
There’s so much that’s less than ideal about this. A lot of people don’t have a big freezer. Some can’t afford to pay for bulk ingredients up front. Some people won’t have a half day spare to spend it cooking, especially if they have kids. And then there’s the depressing aspect of eating the same food everyday.
I’m lucky I enjoy cooking so don’t mind it taking up my evenings (nor do I have kids or a small freezer or work full time on minimum wage) but even I balk at the thought of meal prepping.
2 meals for 5 days is pretty boring also, it takes a significant amount of time of my Sunday to batch cook. Preparing the meals, cooking, cooling, portioning, and washing. Not to mention there is still plenty of time to he spent preparing the meal on the day such as cooking veg, rice, pasta etc to go with it.
The food in Britain is already ridiculously cheap. And yet people choose to eat shit instead.
I’m glad to see people like you who thinks that eating shit is a choice. It’s cute.
Let me explain how it works for some who are not as privileged: when people are hungry, they buy cheap. It doesn’t matter if some over privileged cunt think they are eating shit. It matters that something fills hungry, grumbly tummies. Especially for ones with kids. People really need to get off their fucking high horses and just let people eat. Jesus. It’s not hard.
Yes it may not be the healthiest. But it sure beats outright starvation.
That's not true for UK where, once again, food is RIDICULOUSLY CHEAP. You can literally make three meals for a price of one ready meal from supermarket without bulk buying in advance. People who eat shit are fucking idiots to say the least.
The real privilege here is defending unhealthy life styles and choices instead of promoting healthy and cheaper ones. UK public is way too rich to be able to overprices shit and fight for it.
I agree with your sentiment, but how can people be starving if obesity is an epidemic?
In a country with national healthcare, do you not think people have a degree of responsibility to manage their own health to avoid being a burden on the system? Freedom to eat what you like and get obese may work in the US when you or your insurance company has to pay for treatment later in life, but here it’s society that has to pony up because you choose a Maccy ds over ten minutes at the stove.
Can people please stop asking Tony Blair for his opinions?
Let’s ask Tony Blair what he thinks about your idea.
It’s me or this is stupid and paternalist? What are “the poors” gonna eat then?
The rich at this rate
What are “the poors” gonna eat then?
Well, there was a famous woman some years back who suggested cake as a viable alternative…
Too much sugar
Soylent green! Made from their unfortunate neighbours.
Sugar free cake
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Do you mean government subsidized highly addictive, processed, junk food with predatory marketing pushed by gigantic multinational corporations? Do not shirk their responsibility in this. It’s not the average person’s fault.
My problem is the whole “poor people eat poorly because they are stupid. I will force them to take the good decision”
100%. I did my undergraduate degree in public health, and one thing that I constantly saw about program development for nutrition and food subsidy programs was people thinking that the main issue to an individual getting proper nutrition was not having an education on how to cook or recognize nutritious versus non-nutritious foods. So they wanted to have stupid bullshit like nutrition classes for snap benefits. Where you wouldn’t get the benefits unless you took the classes, how fucking shortsighted and missing the entirety of the issue. As if a single parent who’s working two jobs is going to have the time to cook or even the time to grocery shop well.
Why is every politicians answer to everything “make the poor pay more money!”?
If I go buy the ingredients to make cheeseburgers for my family nowadays, out will cost just as much as if I went to burger king to buy them. The so called junk food is many times the cheapest option. These fucks just want to kill off the poor with taxes
The ones you make at home will undoubtedly be healther in a lot of ways than the BK ones though.
Yeah but you’re missing the point. It costs the same, and I’m wrecked from work and don’t have time or energy to cook, so I’ll take the fast food every time
How is BK cheaper, they are so expensive? It’s like 5.99 for a whopper. Or is this something like feeding your family the 280 calories saver burger which is £1.50?
Ok, but that’s still a personal choice, you could cook but chose not to. If you gain weight or health issues from your diet that’s not societies fault.
work requires long hours to get by
doesn’t have the time to make food from scratch every day
entirely their fault
???
Not to mention the cost of electricity has skyrocketed in recent months, so cooking (esp. using an oven) is massively expensive.
I cook my own stuff from scratch, but that’s because I have a job that I can work from home for, and that I can flex hours with. But I have the empathy to recognise that I’m privelaged in that regard.
How about instead of taxing junk food we just start eating the rich.
Eat Tony Blair.
Kinky
Better also reduce the cost of healthier food, ya knobhead.
I’ve thought that for years. Tax the high sugar/fat/alcohol stuff and use 100% of that tax to subsidise fresh fruit and veg.
that will just become profit for supermarkets. even if you legislate maximum prices for certain foods, it will still become profit for supermarkets but the quality will be reduced.
Tony Blair says junk food should be made too expensive for the poor to afford through new sugar and salt taxes to tackle obesity
You’re on an island surrounded by salt water, Tony. If people want salt, they’re gonna get salt.
Who knew Tony Blair and Jamie Oliver had so much in common. Maybe Jamie Oliver is a secret war criminal.
He uses Bosch an awful lot now I think about it. 🤔
Just another way to rob workers of more time and money and treat them like the serfs the leech class sees them as.
How about we take these fuckers champagne and shove it up where the sun don’t shine?! Seriously how dare they think of more ways to starve people?! Surely if he gives a damn then he should tackle the fact people are struggling to eat and live rather than worry about some so called obesity crisis?!
Tony Blair: Well if they have no bread, let them eat cake.
If you want the slightly less sensational version here’s the original reporting on what he said: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/blair-calls-for-tax-on-junk-food-times-health-commission-2gd7hhh69
Sounds like someone needs a reminder to have his fucking cake cake and shit the fuck up up while eating it too or else it’s going to be shoved up his ass.
Rich fuck.
LONDON CHEETO PARTY FAM
I think this would be more effective than a lot of us lefties would like to admit. “Healthy” food is already affordable, people just don’t want to eat it when there are other options.
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It’s not a tax on poor people, its a tax on unhealthy food, which you’ll be surprised to find out that everyone eats regardless of economic class.
