• MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    They all do the fascist salute. The Nazis took it from the Italian fascists. If the fascist isn’t German, trying to create a master race (the nazis were not the master race they were supposed to create it), or attempting to institute a 1000 year reich then they are not Nazis.

    Most fascists are not Nazis, that doesn’t make them better.

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      3 hours ago

      Fascist/Nazi are interchangeable in American culture.

      You’re wasting your time arguing this pointless detail.

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        28 minutes ago

        Cool, Americans don’t get their own definitions for philosophies. It’s frustrating how willing people are to defend this idea that they should.

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          Why would it matter if we got our own definition? The original Nazis are within living memory. Their symbols are within living memory. So when someone performs those symbols while advocating for many of the same tenets of that ideology, we just call it by the same name.

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      9 hours ago

      Elon and Trump (nee Drumpf) are both very direct German descendants.

      Elon wants to repopulate a planet with his DNA specifically. Trump wants to fuck his own blonde, white, daughter.

      If it talks like a fascist, is German, and wants its DNA spread around, and then does a Nazi salute, I think it’s time to call a spade a spade, or more accurately, a Nazi.

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        9 hours ago

        You’re stretching quite hard. Neither man is German. They are fascists not Nazis. We don’t need to be ignorant as to which flavor of fascism we are facing

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      23 hours ago

      Right, I get what you’re saying. But words and affiliations change over time and can get appropriated by other parties. Neonazis for example. They’re all fascists and I’m positive Elon Musk emulated Hitler, for whatever reason.

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        21 hours ago

        All Nazis are fascists but not all fascists are nazis much like communists are leftists but not all leftists are communists.