• ivanafterall ☑️@lemmy.world
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    It might seem trivial, but this stupid headline points to one reason Republicans have been winning. Everyone (notably journalists) still feels the need to “play the game” as they’ve always known it.

    Oh, Candidate A said something? The game rules say you now have to run a quote in response from Candidate B.

    But when Candidate B is an openly corrupt, lying, fascist, rapist shitpile who can’t make it to the potty in time and is in the pocket of Russia, maybe take the fucking gloves off at some point and stop pretending you can or SHOULD be impartial. Here, watch:

    After Public Nazi Salute Musk-Owned X Now Running Pro-Hitler, Holocaust-Denying Ads

    It’s not perfect, yet still worlds better.

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      Here, watch:

      After Public Nazi Salute Musk-Owned X Now Running Pro-Hitler, Holocaust-Denying Ads

      Because they’re scared. Print that, get buried in lawsuits by the richest edge lord in history.

      You have to be smarter than this and actually defund his backers. Make it incredibly hard for them to be associated with him. Show him as a losing proposition.

      As long as he’s winning, people are buying Tesla’s, the US is financing public money into space X, and multinationals are active and paying for Twitter then nothing is going to change.

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        This can’t be the whole truth, though. What ivanafterall is describing is true for essentially the whole western world. Media (or at least high-brow media) feel they need to be respectable, and to be respectable you have to be perfectly neutral. Not just in America did established media feel the need trivialise Musk’s obvious Hitler salute, this happened all over. I follow Dutch and German media, and haven’t seen a mainline newspaper call it what it was.

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        Scared? The journalists shouldn’t be. They’ll never have to write about it.

        Every major news organization is owned by a small handful of people playing for the same team. Internet exposure? Maybe for a few minutes before your site is delisted/deranked and/or taken down by a barrage of nonsense DCMA takedown notices that are effective immediately (with no evidence) but to reverse them you need to painstakingly disprove each: to both your provider and the claimant.

        Time to accept that we’re juuuust at the tipping point of freedom of speech and expression. Slip a bit more and we’re sliding right into an identical situation as seen in China, North Korea, and Russia. Remind me… who does the head apricot idolize? Neat.

      • DrFistington@lemmy.world
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        Just change it to ‘controversial salute’ and keep the rest. People will fill in the blanks

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      You can and should have spicy reporting while remaining impartial. It takes more work to drum up the evidence, but that’s what separates good reporting from great reporting.

  • Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world
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    Because pro-Hitler, Holocaust-denying content aligns with the platforms ownership and doesn’t receive an appropriate response from a user base who learned about aliens on History and history on Fox News entertainment.

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        Haha, last time, when Facebook was “fact checking” and “fighting disinformation” the Zucc was a hero, now he suddenly supports nazis.

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          People have been shitting on that lizard-faced freak since Facebook’s first flame wars between McCain and Obama supporters.

          Do not cite the deep magic to me, witch. I was there when it was written.

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          I’m sorry, who said Meta was ever the good guy, let alone its shitstain of a CEO? Implementing too-little-too-late consolation fact-checking for a little bit doesn’t excuse waving the flag as THE vanguard of misinformation-as-internet-discourse in mainstream social media.

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            Cause he’s a wet little lizard who’s afraid the bigger, richer lizards will eat him.

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      Alphabet and Meta might be at that point soon, with the way things are going.

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      Yes, the article is meant to expose that the rules of X literally don’t prevent pro Nazi content. And history falsification is also allowed.
      The second part is illegal in many countries. Even if Nazi propaganda is legal, which it also isn’t in some countries.

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          Well for one denial of holocaust is illegal in many countries. Often under wider rules that falsification of historical facts is illegal.

          EU should ban Xitter, because it’s a channel for history falsification and hate speech.

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              If you are in USA, I seriously wish so too, because the latrine that is the debate in USA is flowing over to the rest of the world.

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              A law to prevent spreading false history may sound good but I fear it’s not a good solution. In bad hands the law can instead can attack history to promote a false one. If an inconvenient truth happens to looks like the dribble a Holocaust denier would say then good hands may punish an otherwise good person, promoting a different incorrect history.

              I’m convinced I cannot trust anyone to judge - for me - what I should be able to read/hear. There must be better ways to defeat Nazism ideology.

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          Deleted twitter at least 10 years ago. I assume it’s become a lot worse but is the vast majority of it really pro Nazi?

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            That’s what I hear. I deleted my Twitter many years ago, too. Although, it was still pretty bad then

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    How is that a serious question? Are they trying to be deliberately obtuse, or are they just fucking stupid?

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      Just asking questions makes it harder to sue under English libel law.

      Look at the difference.

      Elon musk is a Nazi.

      A clear factual statement leaves room for disagreement. Maybe he’s just an edgelord fascist radicalized by 4chan but doesn’t have enough fashion sense to be a Nazi.

      Elon musk is a Nazi?

      Perfectly safe.

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        Interesting. I hadn’t considered that possibility.