Reading through all the comments, it’s funny to me a Star Trek fan not being able to conceptualize a world without money.
A staggering number of Trek fans are libertarians and that bewilders me. You’ll see them on Star Trek Online zipping around in USS AYN RAND and USS FOUNTAINHEAD and the like, usually coming from tacticool Section 31 themed fleets.
Libertarians are not an intellectual people.
I had a libertarian tell me that the minimum wage was racist the other day. They said this in the same breath as arguing that black people won’t work without an incentive.
I’ve heard this argument before. They hear liberals talking about how minimum wage increases disproportionately help black people and what they hear is “liberals think black people’s labor is inherently worth less because they be harmed more in a truly free market.”
So basically the same problem as all capitalism “libertarianism”. It’s completely idealistic and refuses to view anything in historical context and therefore ends up being racist as shit on its own, among other faults. Like, shit, I wonder if there are any historical reasons why black Americans’ labor is undervalued.
Yeah this was some kind of riff on that only it was even worse because they were talking about how there’s just no incentive for black people in particular to gain skills when there’s a minimum wage. This was, of course, a middle-aged white guy.
Star Trek Online Fun Fact:
In the Romulan Republic campaign, there’s a lore terminal in one of the Tal Shiar bases that namedrops the Communist Manifesto as one of the many literary works seized from rebel Romulans. In fact that whole campaign’s first arc is fighting a civil war to overthrow the Empire.
Killers Among Us
If you’re poor and have free time, clearly you’re lazy and you should be working all the time!
I wasted so much time in government and corporate lines when I was unemployed, of course I used the internet during that time. OP really did find a well dunk worthy post.
The government literally had/has a program to give out cheap smart phones, tablets and laptops to poor people during Covid.
The idea of this technology being inaccessible to those in poverty is like 20 years out of date.
It’s so funny when you see someone complain about poor people having smartphones. Imagine being so out of touch that you think the standard is still a candybar dumbphone and touch screen smartphones are some kind of luxury. I guess there’s a few companies making those phones, but they cost about the same as a cheap smartphone.
I literally got my smartphone for free from my phone company. They hand out backlog phones like candy
Quality, affordable smartphones do exist with almost all the luxury features of an iPhone. Unfortunately the US bans them because they’re mad China beat them to the punch despite being sanctioned
There are two types of dumb phones: burners you can buy at Walmart for $20 and “utility phones” for old people who can’t see well and young people who think it’s the answer to their dopamine regulation disorder. Still cheap but will get advertised more for specific features. Easy to read screens, extremely difficult to break (for swimmers or hikers). Stuff like that. They’re very purpose built and are not marketed as daily driver phones.
Even if there wasn’t a program for it, having a phone is not optional in 2023. It is required. You have to have reliable access to email and phone in order to apply for jobs, apply for government benefits, have a social circle, etc.
But poor people don’t have time for a social circle! /s
COVID? Mfs forgot about the Obama Phone already
I’m wishing all reactionary Star Trek fans a very happy why the fuck do you exist
Maybe they’re a ferengi fan
#NotAllFerengi
Many people don’t digest their entertainment critically at all, and take it in on a very superficial level. New Trek doesn’t help this, being entirely superficial laserporn content without any substance - so any new fans are going to be extra like this.
Lots of people just grew up watching lasers and spaceships on TV as a kid and liked the aesthetics of it without ever interrogating any of the central themes or messages.
Even the idea of critically analyzing their treats is seen as a waste of time because it is not LE STEM. They’re ideologically lead around by the nose by propaganda they can’t even comprehend.
Even ends with smuglord ellipses…
Internet is the new Big Screen TV that clearly the poors could never have!
My dirt poor uncle had Netscape in the late 90’s, I don’t know how they think this is impossible
Any perceived luxury1 is blasphemy and proof you aren’t poor in the eyes of
1
This includes avocado toast, starbucks coffee or ever eating out
how do you do fellow tankies
“why yes im a socialist, I just hate everything about socialism”
Look, us enlightened “real leftists” will spontaneously create pure leftism untainted by the evil fake leftism of the non-white countries
I’m feeling happy the good guys won in Vietnam
Yo fucking link me or get them on here I wanna wreck their shit
It’s in the post body https://hexbear.net/comment/3998896
“If you spent less time on the Internet and more time picking pennies up off the street maybe you wouldn’t be homeless.”
OP in that thread is the epitome of “i’m as left as they come buuuuuuuuuuuuuut” worthlessness
“I grew up in a liberal (in the American sense) family, and I identify now as a socialist, though a lot of the liberalism I grew up in has stuck with me”
to
“The GOP is directly inspired by the homophobic attitudes in both countries [Russia and China]. Have you been living under a rock?”
in the course of a few hours.
"ummm actually Americans are homophobic because of foreigners sweety, and I care about LGBTQ+ rights more than you"The fact that you can live in the USA and think the anti-LGBTQ+ sentiment is anything but homegrown (you know, like the racism) is the definition of “living under a rock”. Either that or just good ol’ American exceptionalism - “we are so amazingly progressive that it must be someone else’s fault there are bigots here.”
really gotta wonder about the “i identify as a socialist/all socialist regimes, past and present, are irredeemably evil!” folks
They support all revolutions but the ones that succeed
social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism
“The GOP is directly inspired by the homophobic attitudes in both countries [Russia and China]. Have you been living under a rock?”
If anything, Republicans are the ones inspiring bigots around the world (at least in terms of tactics). There’s a reason why right-wing groups in like a dozen other countries are also talking about “wokism” and “cancel culture” now.
If anybody ever says this to me, I start asking them about Bordiga and Organic Centralism. See if they are really as “left as it gets”
the theoryposters hit 'em high and the shitposters hit 'em low
Could you do a Bordiga effort post on a mega at some point in the future? I know nothing about Bordiga’s writing.
That sounds like work
Nothing you have to do of course. Just felt like you were knowledgeable. Do you have a good start for his writings instead?
The pure childishness of liberals gets me everytime
Liberals have no particular ideological rigor. They’re about treats and wanting more treats no matter the cost.
The Star Trek Lemmy is surprisingly only second to the programming one in terms of users with obnoxious politics for some reason.
They got stomped so bad they even deleted their account over there.
To the libs: If you’re gonna fuck around, know what you’re talking about otherwise you’re gonna get people jumping on your fuckin’ head.
Amazing.
dancing bridget might be one of the things that brings me only pure joy
The last post I saw of that liberal crybully was a circlejerk agreement with an enlightened centrist on another thread about how “both sides are equally right and wrong.” Of course both of them had right wing opinions but wanted the both sides merit badge.
It was on this thread.
These people’s argument always collapses when you press them for their solutions to the problems plaguing liberal democracies. They can’t talk you in circles if you keep digging for answers that you can then dismantle credibility for.
Ultimately, liberalism collapses under the pressure of dialectical materialism’s analyses. Just walk them through it and they’ll prove themselves to be full of shit for you.
That rules, fuck that person
bro i can literally shitpost from the toilet. does he think poor people just shit their pants?
Probably, or like, in the corner or something
These people don’t realize that even homeless and poor people have phones with internet
unless you just have really bad priorities?
They realize. They’re just trying to say that the poors and homeless who disagree with them online deserve being poor and/or homeless
You know those charity drives where they buy kids on homeless shelters tablets for Christmas? Haven’t they ever considered just gifting them a JOB instead???
You know those charity drives where they buy kids on homeless shelters tablets for Christmas? Haven’t they ever considered just gifting them a JOB instead???
🤣 😂
You are now a power poster on Facebook 🤣 😂I pull my best stuff straight out of the comments from my local newspaper 🥰🥰🥰
You can’t just give them a job they didn’t earn, they won’t appreciate it. Best is just to give them a pamphlet explaining how to format their CV.
