That is not my dog
I think as it grows, we'll see more and more of the same crowd, but the structure of Lemmy will help the culture feel different.
Nobody can own Lemmy, by design. (Even the creators just have the .ml instance)
No ads, and no corporate pressures to be advertiser friendly.
No weird profit-driven decisions.
Well, an instance could decide they wanted to try to make money, but I think everyone would just bail on them. People are more than happy to help out servers with donations, no need to make it a business venture.
I don't think so. There are very few communities that actually successfully fully left reddit. A good number of them splintered across circlejerkers on multiple lemmy instances with the users remaining on reddit asking "what's a lemmy" and staying put. The vast majority never left reddit at all, and don't give a fuck that reddit is trying to build a business.
Where the lemmy hivemind fails is that a bunch of us are reddit refugees that lost our favorite mobile apps, so you get a bunch of delusional people here thinking that reddit is dead and lemmy is the best thing ever. It's not. Lemmy has a lot of the same problems reddit had, and we're just repeating history. Wait until you need to squash extremism, prevent illegal content, and people maintaining the main instance (don't kid yourself, it's lemmy.world) need to eat.
For me, that's not the case. I enjoyed the amount of content and discussion, but I just lost interest in reddit over time.
I saw the same jokes too often. I got sick of seeing the ads. The admins perma-banned my fiancee's account, despite her never really commenting or posting. They never gave a reason for banning her, other than going against "policy", which they never specified when asked. It would be the equivilant of being banned from every single instance. Some of the "helpful" communities were becoming much more toxic over time. I stayed despite that stuff.
Then, the API thing happened. It wasn't that reddit wanted to profit, but rather how they went about it. Had they been honest with the developers when they asked at the start of the contract year, it would have been much smoother. You can't change the cost of a yearly subscription halfway through the year. I disliked the provable false rumors that were spread about developers.
I disliked that Spez heavily implied that people leaving reddit would harm reddit employees. He didn't make that statement about someone who made those threats, but instead he made it about the people leaving. It left a very bad taste in my mouth. I'm not monetarily supporting someone like that if I have any say in the matter.
I disliked the sudden overwhelming toxicity that I saw start against people who were recommending Lemmy. I get being rude to people who are rude, but it's lame to be rude just because. Someone told me that I would be back, that I should just wait to see them right. That person helped me stay off reddit, tbh.
I don't understand fanaticism, regardless of the company/platform/group, etc. If I start to dislike a social media, I will move somewhere that I like better. If Lemmy becomes like what Reddit is today, I'll leave Lemmy too. There's always something else. I also don't really care if Reddit sinks or swims. That has nothing to do with me. If I get sick of all social media, I won't use it. There are lots of other things to do with free time.
Not really what I was talking about, but ok.
The scenario of companies opting to host instances may happen, just to try to jump into the bandwagon, which could imply they could/would at some point start to run ads but I'd risk the instance would quickly be defederated and/or turned into a hell pit.
But the notion of seeing an instance being run by GOG, Valve/Steam (not a client or fan but I aknowledge they have put a lot of work towards Linux and gained a lot of support because of it), AMD (fanboy here, give me a pass), RPi (I am aware of the shady turn they have undergone) and other companies that have some degree of respect in the Fediverse could be interesting.
Well except for apps like Boost which are proprietary and has ads.
They took way too long to come to town, and now they have and it has ads, I don't even want it, since Liftoff has pretty much the same UI and without ads.
Yes, but CAPITALISM!!!
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I don't mind the news bot ones as much as the ask Reddit type threads that get crossposted here. If the OP can't even see our responses (since the discussion is on Reddit), and a bot created the thread here on Lemmy, what the hell is the point.
I honestly just blocked like 2-3 newsbot users, and I barely see it anymore unless I scroll way too far.
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Lemmy is a reddit clone with users from reddit. It's not a bug, it's a feature.
It wasn't this way before. Lemmy had existed for years before Eternal September.
Ok but how do we set ourselves apart? Almost every new community is just reddit clone. There isn't innovation. We are better and smarter and more dedicated, but we are just putting up with being decentralized reddit.
This blog post makes a point about how the strength of the Fediverse is that things can be decentralized into topic-specific instances instead of general use communities.
I am on StarTrek.Website. We only host Star Trek communities. It is much nicer there than on Lemmy.World.
Just about anywhere is better than Lemmy.world though.
I never really found it that different. Just less populated.
Same format. Similar groups. Similar users (though mostly the sane ones, but I attribute this more to the less populated part more than anything). Similar if not the exact same content.
less populated
This is the part I feel.
Fuck. You're my favorite user 😰 we can't be letting you down!
You're my favorite user
Whoa. Fr?
Can't wait for the comment section to be spammed witht he same three reddit catchphrases
"this"
Here, have a poor man's gold 🥇
"take my upvote"
Thank you, kind stranger!
For your edification and posterity. This. What you just wrote. I totally agree. Like a chef serving a bowl of stew, you stuck your ladel into my brain and from my incoherent abstract thoughts were able to form the exact sentiment of what it is I was feeling. Down to a decimal of a decimal, more perfectly than I ever could have iterated, you captured the essence of every nuance I experienced relating to the subject matter. No words could portray the awe I felt knowing that somebody shared the exact same thought process as me. Not only that, but with the ability to articulate in such a refined manner the depth of said thought process. No words could describe that feeling. Except one. This.
Is there a Lemmy app that allows you to manage such beautiful pasta?
Beat me to it
This.
Oh god am i glad. The amount of tankies is insane. Can't wait for more middle and left leaning people to join.
Right like holy shit! I never even knew what the term tankie was till I came to Lemmy.
It's like some people here want Stalin back in power, but for the whole world.
Yep. And everyone disagreeing obviously is just a nazi or doesn't know history
You're like a Nazi, cause you're doing holocaust-relativism. The fact that you're german makes it more scary.
What does the Great Leap Forward mean? What is the great Cultural Revolution? What does Tianenmen square massacre mean? What happens to the uyghurs right now?
The last time we spoke you couldn't or didn't want to answer any of these questions.Don't feed them. If they get enough non-interaction maybe they'll go outside and touch grass.
If i did, how would i spend my weekend?
Lemmy is still kinda empty, i have nothing better here to do than to tell people who dont touch grass how much not grass touching they're doing.
I am enough of an ass to keep going. I will stop when we get more normal stuff to talk about.I'm sure something's happening around you deserving your attention more than this guy.
Some apps let you block instances. Lock out Lemmygrad and Hexbear and you don't see that many tankie takes unless you go looking.
I think there's a few of them but they are highly vocal and unhinged. I only had to block 2 of them, and things seem pretty okay right now.
Yes, incredibly unhinged. Probably don't ever talk to normal people.
Seriously block that fucking instance. I havent seen any tankies since the drama blew up.
Landlords are more insane. They're scum.
Yep. Landlord are worse than millions of deaths and famines…
communism is when famine no iPhone vuvizela
Good Counterargument. Landlord is when slavery capitalism bad.
L Take + coomunism + okay communist + capitalism is when you're poor + communism is when our glorious leader makes us all starve + all hail the USSR + over 60 Million Deaths + 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region
Said the dude, who doesn't know what the word holocaust means…
Said the CCP that denies uyghur genocide.
Sit down loser.I never denied anything about it. That's your fantasy, bro. But that you don't understand what the word holocaust means and that you are doing holocaust-relativism is a fact. Everybody can read your messages here on the platform.
Um es noch mal in deutsch auszudrücken: Ich schäme mich für dich, dass du sämtliche Aufarbeitungsdiskurse in diesem Land komplett ignorierst.
Moving goalpost
Deine Ziele sind ziemlich bitter. Bitte, beschäftige dich mit Habermas.
What does the Great Leap Forward mean? What is the great Cultural Revolution? What does Tianenmen square massacre mean? What happens to the uyghurs right now?
The last time we spoke you couldn't or didn't want to answer any of these questions.Es macht halt keinen Sinn mit jemanden wie dir zu reden.
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Was willst du damit bewirken? Kommst du dir nicht dumm vor? Dämonenvertreibung?
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Mhhhh. Yes. Very normal behaviour. Telling others that they are subhuman. Totally making a good Argument to keep talking to you.
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Can still browse Reddit on Geddit because it scrapes their website. I use it when I need tips on some old topic.
At one hand, I like lemmy for being smaller and cozier, but on the other, the possibility of reddit becoming unprofitable due to lost users is so awesome to be missed.
COME ON REDDITORS, JOIN LEMMY AND LET REDDIT ROT!
ITT: "My problem with this platform where nobody is in charge is that it has more extremists than the platform where a for-profit corporation is in charge."
Freedom of speech allows for freedom for everybody to speak for better or worse. This is an essential human right and should not be suppressed unless it harms one another.
It's different in the ways that matter.
I wish I had the resources to open and maintain instances. There's a few topics I followed on Reddit that I haven't really found an alternative for.
It's actually not that expensive but moderating that shit is horrible!
The is no issues with any platform. The issue happens when, how the users behave/use it.
pLaY StUpiD GaMeS…
Fuck around…
as of today, lemmy users are as bad as redditors. if not worse. actually fuck that, the shit ive been seeing today HAS been worse. fuck all yall ignorant, biased, overconfident, worthless psychos
making broad statements about heterogenous groups of people seems like a popular career choice
what a pompous way to put it. what group of people ISNT heterogeneous? I'm talking about the posts I see, the sentiments that get supported, and the things that get shut down. empirical, openly visible stuff.
Okay but spell out the problem. How can we do better?
this isnt a summer camp, I dont see how anonymous strangers telling anonymous strangers to act is going to solve anything. I think it comes down to who still uses this site. if this place is gonna get better, it needs to get bigger.
so I guess we gotta develop more communities and content
Rip lemmy. Everything is great on a given platform until the late adopters join :( seems like it happens with most platforms.