• GVAGUY3 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Rhodesia stans are the dumbest people (like all fascists). Like they are the settlers that ate shit the most. My cat lived longer than Rhodesia.

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    Lenin in Imperialism: The Highest Stage Of Capitalism dug a quote out from Cecil Rhodes (a disgusting colonial piece of shit) who said:

    I was in the East End of London (a working-class quarter) yesterday and attended a meeting of the unemployed. I listened to the wild speeches, which were just a cry for ‘bread! bread!’ and on my way home I pondered over the scene and I became more than ever convinced of the importance of imperialism… My cherished idea is a solution for the social problem, i.e., in order to save the 40,000,000 inhabitants of the United Kingdom from a bloody civil war, we colonial statesmen must acquire new lands to settle the surplus population, to provide new markets for the goods produced in the factories and mines. The Empire, as I have always said, is a bread and butter question. If you want to avoid civil war, you must become imperialists.

    The imperialists have understood for a long time to prevent socialist revolution they must by all means have new lands, new markets, new pools of cheap labour to rinse to placate the workers in imperialist nations.

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      it’s what the phrase “Britons are made for empire” referred to the empire was the outlet for the local lack of social mobility or opportunities

      when we got rid of it we had to replace that social function with education

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          Fair point

          with India no longer a colony and the suez crisis imperialism has changed so much as to be a different organisation now and the Americans run it now as well. The third world is exploited but through debt traps more than the direct colonial governance I was talking about.

          And the giving up on India as a colony was at least in part a result of British political desire to do so. If Churchill had been reelected he would have probably fought a war over it

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            I was kinda facetious, the British Empire as it existed is indeed gone, but unfortunately neocolonialism is still going pretty strong

            I also think it was a cost calculation on the part of colonial empires which got rekt during WW2, just too expensive to deal with the unrest when the economy is in the shitter, the Brits actually understood that much more than the French, who sent a lot of men to die in the jungle of Indochina and the mountains of Algeria

            Agree on Churchill tho, considering his revolting opinions on the colonised people

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    industrial global new world order

    as opposed to the non?global old? world order that took over zimbabwe and named it rhodesia after a fucking train industrialist?

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      No, no, no. You see, they were a nation of Chads. They were all six feet tall and had perfect hair and razor wits. Their smiles sparkled like the sun, and they could single-handedly plow a 10 acre field in under an hour. They were as stalwart as they were wise. They could all speak sixteen languages. They were God’s Chosen People.

      So, anyway, a force of locals overran their government within a matter of months. No one can explain exactly how it happened (:-| wtyp-gang ), but their entire empire vanished from the earth seemingly overnight. Some say they angered the gods with their hubris. Others think it was a (((fifth column))). It is even rumored that Rhodesia was laid low by an early incarnation of TikToks and the first generation of rap music.

      All we know for certain is that their immaculate, almost magical people served as the high water market of white western civilization. And if we strive to be everything that they were, perhaps we can recapture that moment in the sun once again.

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    I didn’t even know what a “rhodesia” was until someone posted a FN-FAL on /r/guns reddit-logo and all the comments were full blown fashposting. That plus the “roof Korean” glorification made me wonder if there might be something wrong with that place

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      Roof Korean has always been a euphemism for shooting black people, despite the end result of the roof koreans during the Rodney King Uprisings in 90s Los Angeles those same roof koreans being shooting other koreans including eachother

      Hence why every discussion around black/brown people protesting/doing civil unrest includes morons saying that they need roof koreans or whatever

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        I have very mixed feelings about the Roof Koreans. While their imagery has definitely be coopted as a canard for the fantasy of anti-black violence, there has also been some recent attempts to invoke them as the only well-known example of Asian-American armed self-defense in the background of increasingly fanatical anti-Asian racism in the US.

        I don’t like the fact that they’re being used to stoke inter-minority violence, but I also don’t like the fact that some people are using them to try to convince Asian-Americans against the necessity of organizing and arming themselves.

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            Yeah, a lot of them were. That being said, many of them were small business owners that would not have been much better off materially than people we would all consider to be workers. Asian Americans were also subjected to systematic discrimination in employment, housing, financing, etc which meant that they had no choice but to open up small businesses in economically poor areas.

            But of course, that’s not to minimize the fact that black people were justified in being outraged by the failure of justice for Latasha Harlins and the beating of Rodney King.

            Idk, it’s hard to drill down into this because it inevitably just results in more unhelpful interminority conflict that only benefits whitey via divide and conquer.

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                Some Korean shop owners were certainly racist towards black customers, but I’ve never read any accounts which suggest the protestors were selectively targeting racist shop owners. On the contrary, most accounts I’ve read seem to suggest people were taking out their anger on Koreans in general.

                In principle, I think that collective punishment is wrong. I don’t see much conceptual difference between targeting all Korean stores because some owners were racist and targeting Muslims because of a terror attack carried out by one group of islamist radicals.

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    Hahaha this is the brain wormed moron who said there was nothing to stop him and his buddies from showing up to a peninsula, enslaving the locals, gaining a demographic majority, and “establishing an aristocratic regime”.

    The peninsula in question? Kamchatka.

    Yeah bro, the Russians are famously chill about people coming to annex their land. Nothing the Russian Federation and their hundreds of thousands of tanks and artillery pieces could do about some idiot trad bros showing up in a boat.

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        Who would win, a flotilla of chuds on fishing boats with AR-15s, or the entire Russian Pacific Fleet?

        Hell, one small patrol boat with a stabilized autocannon mount could probably hold off an almost infinite amount of boats with small arms.

        Edit: Lmao I just looked it up and even small Russian corvettes mount a rotary AK-630 that spits out at least 4000 30mm rounds a minute. Here’s a 30mm round side by side with a NATO 5.56

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        He probably thinks they’re all inferior peasants who would be easy to subdue for ultra masculine trad men like him.

        Personally, I would think twice before challenging people who eke out a living on one of the most inhospitable places on earth on their home turf, but I’m just not trad enough.

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        “We will rule as aristocrats” does sound like the epitaph on the tombstone of some clueless chud who got merked in the woods by a Siberian hunter.

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      It’s easy! All you have to do is to show up with your buddies and subdue the local (nuclear-armed) population. And there’s even a defensive land bridge! Surely, the Asiatic brainpan cannot conceive of the concept of boats and planes.

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        that shouldnt be hard, since ukraine will be in yekaterinburg by christmas, and putin will have a lot more to worry about than some peninsula in the far east.

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        Yeah, I’m sure that land bridges will come in handy when a Su 25 drops an explosive package on your head.

        This people are so sheltered they truly believe only white people can prosecute air campaigns, reminds of the Ukrainian foreign legion who got their shit pushed in by an air raid

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          Fondly remembering the former US special forces guy who went to fight in Ukraine and was interviewed about how scary it is when the other side has artillery and helicopters.

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    I’m not in favor of torturing people, but it’s okay to make these people sing “rhodesians never die” under threat of losing progressively more digits, and when the song is over shot them to prove it wrong.

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    It’s so weird how these people present themselves as anti-elitist when Sparta (which I think is what this weirdo is alluding to) has been a cherished ideal of elites for centuries.
    Rhodesia does kind of fascinate me though and there are some interesting critical responses in that thread about what life was like there. It’s such a dismal, forgotten failure of a country - like I don’t think any country has been relegated to the dustbin of history harder or faster than Rhodesia was.
    Like one of the interesting things I learned from that thread is that only 5000 big farmers had most of the arable land, and even among whites only those with significant land and income were allowed to vote.
    I always wonder why do these weirdos imagine that if they lived in Rhodesia or Rome or wherever, they would be one of the elite (!) few. Like no you would be the cannon fodder dying in the jungle so that some guy that despises you can keep his servants and his stolen land