• Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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    According to the Google, and I’m not going to search further despite knowing it’s unreliable, the number for Bill Clinton is about 50 times. Just because the OP didn’t mention him, and also because that’s rookie numbers. Even when you include Trump sucking Bubba’s dick.

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    This is wrong. Epstein had an email discussing MTF porn and noting the lack of FTM porn out there and considers grooming young boys to be transition to become a new product category for him.

    This is not a joke, by the way.

  • Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world
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    To be fair Epstein did talk about forcing transition on young boys and raising them as sex slaves. And he was 100% a chaser which came up many times. But trans people were never mentioned as perpetrators of abuse only as victims.

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      Yup, the “democrats are forcibly transitioning your kids” conspiracy theories that conservatives parrot has 100% been coming from the fact that the billionaires wanted to do exactly that. They wanted to forcibly transition children to keep as sex slaves.

      There are multiple documents in the files confirming this… They even go on to justify it by saying that they’d be doing the children a service, because it would allow them to make more money as prostitutes or porn stars after they’re too old for Epstein’s clients.

      There’s a weird branch of conservatism that is really into forced feminization as a kink. That’s why trans women are vilified, but femboys are somehow okay with many conservatives. To the conservatives who are into forced feminization, the femboy is just playing into that kink, and they can tell themselves that it’s forced. They don’t see it as gay, (which would be wrong, as conservatives hate the evil gays), because it’s forcing someone to be feminine instead. But trans women take it too far for those conservatives, because it removes the “I’m forcing them to do this by being more masculine” power dynamic that they enjoy with forced feminization. With trans women, it’s very clearly something that they’re doing to themselves, not something that is being forced upon them.

      But with the billionaires, that latter part isn’t a problem. They literally could force kids to be trans. So it just plays even harder into the forced feminization kink that so many conservatives have… It’s the natural end stage of the kink for them. Trans girls don’t break their illusion of power, because the power is not an illusion when you’re that rich.

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    Remember when the Clinton’s were accused of running an underground pedophile ring at a pizza shop in DC? Turns out that wasn’t true.

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    58 minutes ago

    It’s always the guys you suspect the most.

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      Only the rich. Multimillionaires and higher. Anyone under that is basically a victim of the system too

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          Pedophiles? Victims or people in need of treatment. Pedocriminals? Perpetrators, and society needs to be protected from them, but still in need of treatment.

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          Poor pedos don’t blackmail powerful people into getting out of jail, so the justice system is usually enough in those cases.

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    There’s a huge difference about the way the media is reporting the horrific information uncovered in these files.

    Independent media, who are having to read the files themselves and view the images and the videos, you can just see that they are damaged by that information because it’s so disturbing. And the vast amount of it is so overwhelming. You can see that they’re upset by it.

    But when you watch the mainstream media, the “Reporters” aren’t really directly reading or viewing any of the file information. They’re just getting a summary from somebody else in their organization who’s reading it for them. And so they can report it very disinterested. They’re actually downplaying it. It makes you think they seem more professional, but it’s just because reporters in the mainstream media are not actually looking at all this awful stuff, and if they did, I think they would be reporting it much more accurately as the devastating and horrible thing it really is.

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      And it appears the incriminating stuff is all redacted anyway. There is nothing reported yet about actual rapes of underage girls even though that’s what this was all about. Using protecting the girls’ identities and active investigatioins as an excuse they just cut the entire evidence of the rapes out of the material it appears.

      So the media has an easy out, just reporting on who talked to epstein, who went to a party, and nothing of the details of these rapes, even as those details wouldn’t identify anyone to any person that doesn’t already know about it.

      We need an independent monitor to decide what to release or not. If only we could leak the files, news organizations could decide what to redact, I would trust a number of them keeping each other honest far more than the government.

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        Bill Gates asking Epstein for antibiotics he can slip to his wife without her knowing because he got STDs while on the island should really be a bigger story, even from a popculture gossip standpoint.

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          I totally forgot about about that, what was it syphilis? Probably had something to do with his divorce I imagine. Giving your wife underage human trafficking syphilis Seems like a real last straw.

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    Got one that will tickle everyone’s noodle.

    Where’s ole Roger Stone?

    He’s basically Trump’s evil little Jiminy Cricket.

    0% chance he isn’t involved.

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    That’s not true. Trans people are mentioned. Not by name, but rather how to design perfect sex slaves by transitioning people.

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    What information do we have on Thiel and Epstein, like he partied with him, did he exchange texts that weren’t completely redacted?

    What pisses me off is we haven’t heard any of the incriminating anything, and it’s because the Justice Department redacted it all. Can we not sue the administration to get an independent monitor to decide what to release? What about if we got Congress to give the entire thing to a specific group to decide what to release?

    Other than that, we need to work with the victim groups, and put investigators and authors at their disposal, to be able to run down leads on their memories, and do our own investigations to get to the bottom of what we can.

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    I really doubt his rapist boomer friend group who write global policy didn’t have chats about trans people or drag queens