They want us to die
They want us enslaved.
Gotta say, he’s hitting the right notes for me.
Yeah, I’m feeling cautiously optimistic. And even if he is bullshitting everyone it’s not like we’d miss Collins
Nazi tattoo that his friends say he knew about. Public reddit comments about how he wants to kill for fun. Blackwater derivative volunteer. Abu Ghraib worksman.
This is an enemy of the people, yet Democrats want him elected, exposing their true motive: control over ethics, power over people.
The wild part is how the DNC doesn’t even want this guy. Imagine simping for neo-Nazi that even the DNC won’t touch. The state of US politics is comical.
friends
Every article I’ve seen has this person conveniently unidentified. If a real person wants to put their name to that claim it would carry more weight
I got to say his interview on the John Stewart podcast a while back made me a teeny bit nervous. He talked about power a lot in a somewhat fascistic framing. Of course a lot of the other things he was talking about was fantastic. But there is that nagging doubt in the back of my mind about him. I really can’t say.
I will say I certainly don’t believe any of his excuses for the tattoo, and he completely dodged the topic on that interview.
I find it very hard to trust someone in any sort of leadership position who says they loved war, he said that people needed to die because he believed his way of life was the correct one, there have been a few different quotes where he mentions enjoying combat. And a literal Nazi emblem as a tattoo. How the fuck is he even being discussed as someone to elect in any sort of position at all?
The wild part is how the DNC doesn’t even want this guy
You can certainly dislike this guy on his own merits, but DNC approval doesn’t mean shit to me these days considering how they snubbed Mamdani. DNC lost any and all credibility with me years ago.
Eh, I had a libertarian stint in my past. I hate the villany of changing your opinions. “Flip flopping” is one of the biggest failures you can supposedly have as a modern politician (or even person). We should praise people when they change thier views, not condemn them for it.
At minimum, he must be better than Collins. That’s the alternative. Even if he doesn’t actually believe this stuff, it’s still a significant improvement.
I do think he believes it though. I think he has a bad past, and that lead him down some dark roads. However, I think this has taught him some lessons that he’s learned from. He sees how shitty he was in the past and has improved. I hope this is true for everyone. If you still hold the same beliefs you did in the past, you’re a failure of a human. If you don’t see how stupid and ignorant the younger you was, you aren’t living a life worth living.
Nazis are rehabilitated with lead. Fuck you, apologist.
I hope you can look back in the future and see how stupid you are currently too.
Does he regret it? I’ve heard him speak about the nazi tattoo issue and he doesn’t seem exactly apologetic and regretful.
He tried to say he didn’t know what is was from, but there was proof showing he had it for years after learning where it originated. Being able to avoid tattooing actual Nazi emblems on yourself should be a bare minimum requirement for any “progressive” politician.
I have known a number of Marines. What they tattoo’d on their bodies is the least of my concerns. They’ve all done fucked up shit having been in the USMC.
They’re also the most steadfast and active anti-war and leftist organizers that I have ever known.
Hell, you can go back a century to Smedley Butler. He was not wrong and should not be discounted.
The guy sounds reasonable. I’d vote for him for president.
Too bad he’s light on specifics here - basically “we have to DO something!” - but his more detailed message includes repeal Citizens United, increase billionaire taxation, improve public infrastructure, fix up and use old homes to create low-cost housing, and other things. Creating an economy of owners and renters and squeezing out the homeowner class has been the trend for decades. It’s been called modern feudalism and other things, but it’s not new at all, it’s making steady progress, and it shows no sign of slowing down.
This type of thing is not for specifics. Ideally, it’s to get people who care to look into the specifics. Realistically, it’s just a message that sounds good to people you need to vote for you.
Yeah that’s why I looked into the specifics myself and told everybody. So it’s all working!
i dunno how to feel about that guy
Stop boosting this imperialist warmonger.
Find someone better who lives in Maine
Or you know abandon the dead end of electorlism.
They believe in electoralism because they think the only other way to make change is trough a violence.
This is what’s called a “pipe dream.” You’re welcome to rejoin the rest of us back in reality whenever you’d like
Ok so who is better?
Theyre not saying someone is better. Theyre a complete feckless idiot suggesting violence or some other moronic avenue which they of course won’t be doing but instead asking someone else to do it.
Let’s be honest. They’re a troll spreading apathy. They aren’t promoting any alternative, just doing nothing. Either they’re a troll, trying to help the opponents, or they have been mislead by one of these trolls that has convinced them being the equivalent of empty air is the best thing they can do.
anti electoralism is a better strategy to get any goals actually harmful to the system
imperialist warmonger.
I’d want some kind of sources on this one. This here looks a little libelous otherwise, and while I don’t expect it’s true it’s just not a good look.
okay so you support imperialism and your opinion is invalid to me.
As you may know, America is the center of the world and the atrocities he committed doesn’t count because it’s against brown people. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You’re right.
We should all be paying Hillary to make speeches and devastate whole-ass countries again.
That’s what represents a good Dem, no?
No such thing as a good dem and just because hilary is bad doesn’t make other imperialism okay
Go read his platform.
He is the only Dem who is publicly anti-war.
you go read his platform about increasing military benefits and initiating a “massive shipbuilding project”
First, si vis pacem, para bellum. If you’re defencless, you get invaded. If you want peace, you need to be ready to fight, to some extent. The current budget? Way too large, and he agrees. Shipbuilding though? We are shit at it now. We need to do better if we don’t want to rely on China, which makes us a target. This includes commercial as well as military.
I don’t understand how making VA benefits better equates to imperialism
They just want military vets to suffer. Not because a lot of them were kids scooped up by a war machine with the promise of free college, no. It’s because their tenuous grasp of imperialism dictates that any and all actors are blood thirsty Americans eating Iraqi babies and drinking the blood of the afghans.
Isn’t this the guy that said he didn’t know his nazi tattoo he got while spreading imperialism and killing brown kids for money was a nazi tattoo and because he’s still in the first stage of the Fetterman Tactic™ everyone moved on and pretended he was totally reformed from being a nazi-tattoo wearing storm trooper that definitely killed brown children for money?
Ok.
So I guess we’ll just have Sue again then? Or are you planning on running or supporting someone better?
No? Just shitting then?
Ok.
So the answer to ‘hey this guy is a nazi who likes killing children’ is ‘HURRRRRRRR BUT ARE YOU GOING TO RUN INSTEAD, NO? WELL WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE A NAZI THEN HURRRRRRRR’
Fascinating how the far-right mind works.
Yep, kinda thought you were ridiculous. Thanks for removing any doubt.
its not ridiculous to oppose imperialism and nazism even if there is no electoral opponent with winnign chances currently thats silly talk. Stop defending imperialism so you can get more of a cut of the benefits you ghoul.
Enjoy being bewildered by him voting along side trump 90% of the time by his 6 month mark while upvoting posts with the tagline ‘how could we have possibly seen this coming… again… for the 20th time in the last two election cycles.’
Dude. Just put the meth down already. It’s bad for your health.
Hey maybe I’m wrong and this won’t be yet another ‘“progressive” cishet white guy with a clear history of far-right behavior and beliefs that turns out to just be far right and not reformed.’ I’d be happy if that were the case. Hasn’t been so far but hey I’m rooting for you guys. Maybe you guys can reform.
It’s smart to be skeptical but not to be ridiculous.
“Cishet White Guy”
And there you have it.
The real problem this person has with Platner.
His entire campaign has shown that being a progressive actually works against him, not for him. He’s just fortunate to have landed at a point in time when Democrats and Republicans are lockstep in letting billionaires loot the country and the working class to a previously unimaginable degree.
But cool.
Sure.
Give us the old bitch in the governor’s office who is 100% a-okay with your family being unable to feed itself and opposed a data center ban. They can prop her up like McConnell until she’s literally unable to speak, if by some miracle she beats Collins at all. (Unlikely when she’s on the wrong side of every issue with what voters want at the moment.)
I get where you are coming from. But the idea doesn’t jive with his leaked Reddit account and the posts he made. Dude is a Bernie bro in the best possible way.
who defends imperialism whenever possible and promises to continue who literally signed up to kill people for fun
He defends imperialism in what way? I’m not sure we’re talking about the same person at this point
He supports the current military budget and joined to kill people serving four tours and then serving as a mercenary for the excitement of killing people. He argues for massive shipbuilding buildup to “combat china”, he supports extended benefits for military members to increase recruitment and on and on. He is not quiet about this his main problem with the current military isn’t its action but what he views as waster and bad spending.
He advocates for redirecting funds from military operations to domestic needs, citing the billions spent on endless wars while domestic healthcare and housing systems struggle.
The ship building stuff seems to be more around instead of having China build them, build them in America.
He seems pretty darn anti-war and anti-interventionist from what I’ve heard from him in interviews.
No he frames it as a strategy to encircle china in the pacific you are just ignoring his military support
I mean you’re ignoring the things that come out of his mouth and his comment history.
I get the paranoia. I think you might be taking it too far though.
I dunno, wouldn’t the right wing media leave him alone then?
No? He’s an imperialist but some of his “domestic” policies aren’t in alignment with the republicans? Thats not hard to look at
I’m not sure I understand what point you could possibly be making about the nazi you are implicitly supporting with this comment?
I’m saying if he’s about to pull a fetterman, wouldn’t the right be letting him fly under the radar?
That’s the opposite of how they treated fetterman so why would they do that in this case? Fetterman was constantly lambasted by right-wing media when he was still stage one fetterman. If there were some precedent for your idea that right-wing media is competent enough to have a conspiracy like that I might agree with you; but lets be honest they’re not.
Couldn’t care less if he’s not learned on symbology.
I care that he thinks people should actually be able to earn a living wage in this country; something apparently no other Democrat is willing to commit to, sans Bernie.
Graham Platner out here trying to build his 1000 year empire
Totally.
Must be why he’s one of the few people labeled ‘Dem’ who actually publicly opposes war.
Because he’s imperialist.
He seemed fine with war when it was funding his oyster farm, must be nice to be able to be able to crap all over the system after you get your bag :v
