• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    There is no logic to who you’re told to be angry at. It’s just easier to control people if they’re made to be angry at some group of people. It doesn’t matter which.

    That’s why it’s important to remember when you’re on the internet and find yourself becoming angry at a group of people to stop and ask yourself “is this someone trying to control me?”

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      • Helping people who aren’t me = bad
      • Hurting people who aren’t me = good

      And then the face eating leopards strike

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    Businesses thought they don’t need to pay for AI, but they would still have to pay immigrants.

    Also - immigrants and foreigners usually have better employee protection than Ai laws.

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    immigrants are an easy target because they dont have much rights if any, plus its an easy wedge issue for many countries that have internal political/financial/economic problems. also people dont arnt aware/or are aware of the industry they are in, service, hospitality,etc that is necessary for the economies of those countries.

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    we can’t have the browns (because we all know that’s who they mean) taking our jobs while the billionaires are only billionaires. #MoreTrillionaires amirite

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    Because immigrants use their money to buy food and shelter and make the local economy thrive, while AI gets money in the pockets of the rich

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    Why do we keep believing the Epstein class just because they own the major media outlets? They’re lying. AI is stealing. Immigrants are good people.

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      I wouldn’t say they’re good people, just because they’re immigrants. They’re people like any other, there are good hardworking people amongst them and lazy slobs, but they’re all unfairly exploited.

      Of course depending in local laws, but in general it shouldn’t be possible to exploit anyone. Regardless of their origin or what it says in their passport. Employee protection laws should apply to everyone equally in a given county regardless of persons nationality.

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    Well you see if immigrants take a job they’ll feed their families. But if AI takes a job it’ll make rich white guys more rich.

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        At this point ‘white’ is a cultural thing, and probably it’s time for a new term. I also keep calling them ‘old white men’ because that’s what most of them are, but the mental illness is of course not limited to them.

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    For the capitalists it is also good that immigrants take the jobs.

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    The most twisted part about this is that at least immigrants create jobs as well. Just like you and me, they need housing, groceries, doctors, entertainment, and so on and so forth. The idea that an immigrant is a net negative for the job market is exactly as stupid as getting upset at people for having more children because it will have a negative effect on the job market.

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      This can be read in two different ways. It’s pretty clear, I hope, it’s the good way (that you say that’s the reason for them, not that it’s the obvious reason that you agree with). And the reply with Data too, wouldn’t be surprised if these replies were on a right wing community. Imagine if you were just saying what you think and everyone was upvoting you because they read it as “this is the reason for them”.

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    The immigrants aren’t taking our jobs. They’re doing the work “we” don’t want to do. Agriculture. Janitorial. Construction. Stuff like that.

    And they’re not making computers and games more expensive.

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      The immigrants aren’t taking our jobs. They’re doing the work “we” don’t want to do. Agriculture. Janitorial. Construction. Stuff like that.

      partially false, they’re working under conditions we technically have employment laws against. longer hours, no recourse against management, etc. it helps suppress wages across the board. This include higher paying jobs like software development, nursing, doctors, etc.

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      That’s corporate propaganda, don’t fall for it. “We” would be more than happy to do agriculture, janitorial, construction, etc… but we need to be able to feed ourselves and our families on the income from “burger flipping”.

      You know, like we could do for generations.

      • ᴍᴜᴛɪʟᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴡᴀᴠᴇ @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        I’m with you in the last half but have you tried being bent over all day picking strawberries? I haven’t, I do things for work that most wouldn’t be comfortable with, sometimes dangerous things. And I’m in my 40s.

        Fuck being bent over like that for any amount of time - no way

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          I have worked several fruit farms. Yes it’s hard work. You do get used to it but of course it requires fitness /flexibility that is harder with age. But I’ve also worked in factories which was hard too.

          Immigrants may work these jobs because, like non immigrants, they’re desperate. You can find yourself working with people with serious qualifications for better jobs - because they’re desperate.

          “Taking our jobs” is just a trope.

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          The problem here is with strawberry monoculture. Big ag has been lying for years that their ways are more productive, and so we have huge stretches of the same stuff. Turns out huge stretches of the same stuff is not good for anyone - not for the plants that are not made to live in monocultures. Not for the workers whose bodies were not made for eight hours of doing the same, not for the soil that thrives on diversity.

          So if we could move away from monoculture in anything - social structure, city building, work setup … why insist in 100 ha of maize and 8 hours of doing the same when we already know that these concepts don’t work.

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      Immigrants do jobs that we wont do, and the jobs we do, Its business owners taking our jobs, and giving it to desperate immigrants, who they pay under minimum wage with the implied threat of calling authorities if they complain.

      and when authorities do show up, they only arrest the immigrants… for some reason, they never arrest the cunt that was exploiting them.

      Because immigrant labor does more than field work. they bring in tons of skilled immigrant labor under visas to do white collar jobs too, and they are abused and exploited all the same.

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      This stereotype feels less true every year. I work in a very large office in a large city and ~half of my white-collar co-workers are either immigrants or 1st generation naturalized Americans. According to hiring managers, it’s just representative of the applicant pool.

      I know America has historically exploited immigrants for agricultural work (and still does), but there’s also a huge population of white-collar immigrants from all over the world.

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        Those aren’t the immigrants they’re trying to deport though. Racism is the main component and taking the jobs is just a pretext.

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      Neither are the people AI is replacing? The software engineer or the person who assembled your computer part didn’t decide what price it was sold to you at