• operacion_ogro [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    70·
    10 months ago

    “You can’t sit home. If you’re sick as a dog, you say, ‘Darling, I gotta make it,’” Trump said at an Indianola rally on Sunday. “Even if you vote and then pass away, it’s worth it, remember.”

    Trump really said vote

  • goose [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    64·
    10 months ago

    I honestly have no idea why a Republican would vote for DeSantis when Trump is on the ballot. Do they think Trump is too frou-frou? Are they concerned with how efficiently their political enemies are harmed?

    • SexUnderSocialism [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      31·
      10 months ago

      I’ve been observing two kinds of Republicans who vote for DeSantis over Trump. The “he’s rude and embarrassing, and problematic” group who cares more about optics, and the “he disappointed us and didn’t accomplish all the things he promised he would” group that wants a guy who’s a more principled fascist and will go all in on the culture war like in Florida.

    • Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      25·
      10 months ago

      I have a couple of these people as coworkers. I guess for them they want similar policies as what he offers but, by someone more competent-looking or who looks less embarrassing than Trump.

        • Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          25·
          10 months ago

          They don’t see these people the way we do. Not enough exposure. They don’t know he’s a carb-counting freak who clearly failed out of remedial people skills. They just see a new vessel to use to trigger the libs who won’t be too bogged down in personal controversy to be distracted from that the way Trump is right now with his legal issues.

    • Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      11·
      10 months ago

      It’s the people who like Trump’s cruelty, but think (more or less correctly) that all his personal vendettas, raging narcissism, and legal trouble get in the way of him enacting that cruelty. They want someone who is more about the cruelty and less about the spectacle.

    • ZoomeristLeninist [comrade/them, she/her]@hexbear.netMEnglish
      41·
      10 months ago

      frfr. my lib relatives love nikki haley bc apparently MSM is trying to get dems to support her. from what ive seen, she is a typical republican except she isnt a rabid pro-lifer (shes probably still against abortion tho, so idk)

      • Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        24·
        10 months ago

        I love it when libs just stan Republican politicians because the TV man told them to. I had to talk my mother down from the merits of Chris Christie after a week of lifeline puff pieces from CNN on how “tough” he is against Trump.

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        18·
        10 months ago

        she is a typical republican except she isnt a rabid pro-lifer (shes probably still against abortion tho, so idk)

        I could be wrong but from what I understood she was opposed to introducing a bill for a national abortion ban because it wouldn’t pass. I think her main opposition was strategic.

        • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          18·
          10 months ago

          I think her main opposition was strategic.

          She should’ve ran as a Democrat then, going against their voter bases’ wants and needs in order to be “strategic” only to eat shit and die is their thing.

      • Greenleaf [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        7·
        10 months ago

        Afaik she is anti-abortion but wants exceptions for a number of things. This was the standard republican position before Roe was overturned. Still probably the majority position but the nutzo evangelicals and trad caths have become all about removing any exceptions and prosecuting the woman involved in an abortion with murder, so Haley might as well be pro-choice to them.

      • VapeNoir [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        6·
        10 months ago

        It’s funny how the media played her up and she still came in behind meatball. They don’t realize that people just lie on phone polls, it’s why Ben Carson was the front runner for a bit early in 2016.

        • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          21·
          10 months ago

          He must be using politics to grift. Right-wing pols or political operatives need to find Jesus or pretend to.

          Hailey converted to Christianity when she was ~25 and she left Sikhism. If I wasn’t cynical - I might think she actually believed in Christianity, Jesus, and the rest of it. But I have to wonder if her conversion simply being a tool for her to get ahead.

          Nikki Haley

          Haley converted to Christianity in 1997. She and her husband regularly attend the United Methodist Church. She also attends Sikh services once or twice a year. She visited the Harmandir Sahib with her husband in 2014 during her visit to India. During a Christianity Today interview, when asked whether or not she hopes her parents convert to Christianity, Haley responded, “What I hope is that my parents do what’s right for them.”

    • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      18·
      10 months ago

      They interviewed Iowa voters and some of the quotes really make you yearn for the warm embrace of nuclear fire.

      “I’m not a biggot but I don’t like his name and he makes me think about 9/11.”

      Turns out being an explicit white supremacist on stage isn’t enough to overcome being a minority. Something I’m sure republican minorities will figure out any day now.

      • fanbois [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        38·
        10 months ago

        While they aren’t immortal, there is something deeply unnatural about these zombies still walking the earth. Yes, the best medicine that money can buy is quite powerful, but cancer, Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s and various other degenerative diseases are so incredibly common at their age and are mostly irreversible.

        My wonderful grandmother lies, bed ridden, barely conscious in a care home, waiting for the end. And these freaks stumble around, withering before our eyes, yet always getting up again to inject a little more desperation and destruction into the world. It’s so bleak and I don’t know if I can stand another round of this charade.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          33·
          10 months ago

          It’s really sick. People like Fienstein and Pelosi, rich beyond imagination, keeping their claws dug in to the seat of power until they literally die, and using their last moments to make the world worse. Just sick. I cannot imagine what is happening in their heads. The Democrats, specifically, being unable and unwilling to train up successors just mystifies me. All i can figure is that their politics begin and end at I got mine fuck you, and they don’t consider bringing up successors to keep the system stable and pursue long term goals.

          • zed_proclaimer [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            4·
            10 months ago

            There is no “Democratic Party”. It’s not a party. It’s a privately held corporation. The members that compose it are all self-interested careerists in a cut-throat rat race. There is no common project, no shared goals, no unifying principles. Just a loose coalition of opportunists

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
      34·
      10 months ago

      Yeah he will be a strong contender and possibly even win, but I would never say he is that far ahead(or at all) of Biden. I think people here learned nothing from the red wave flopping last time and I am already betting early on people here will be surprised Americans are all mostly genocidal freaks looking for any excuse to support war specialy when you almost turn it into some holy war over “American values” against the savage hordes of Russians and Muslims.

      The primary issue is still the economy but there is time for Biden to make and or promise concessions before the election still. With all that said Trump offers basicaly nothing over Biden other than maybe swapping Russian/Muslism for Chinese but Biden can press the China button too so idk.

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        32·
        10 months ago

        Less people are gonna come out for Biden than last time and most trimomguys are still trump guys. It’s all vibes, no one really cares about issues.

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        23·
        10 months ago

        This is how i feel about it. I don’t think its a lock either way and as of now i think it will be close. I think less people will turn out for Biden than in 2020, but a lot of libs are still going to turn out to vote against Trump firstvand foremost regadless of anything else. And you’re right that to a lot of libs the genocide is a plus and Biden is the most progressive president since FDR

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
        16·
        10 months ago

        I think it’s less about the genocide and more about how much hate has grown towards Biden and the Democrats since 2020. New York almost went red in the recent gubernational election, something that it hasn’t come close to being for a while. The overall attitude in Upstate New York is similar to how it was around 2016. Most of the complaints are about economy being bad compared to how it was with Trump, money going to Israel and Ukraine, wokeism and what they perceive to be the pushing of trans issues.

        You’re right about Trump not exactly blowing Biden away. Plenty of libs are primed to vote against Trump and the project 2024 propaganda has worked up some people in marginalized groups enough to go and vote against him. But Biden is still going to see a lower voter turnout.

      • Greenleaf [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        8·
        10 months ago

        Americans are all mostly genocidal freaks looking for any excuse to support war

        Support war that directly involves the American military. I don’t think Americans care about proxy wars. They all want their Michael Bay movie type wars - their brave American troops bravely vanquishing the cowardly enemy who hates our freedom. Americans absolutely love rallying around the troops and pretending we’re all in this together blah blah blah. Neither Ukraine nor Gaza fit that bill, though. Most Americans don’t want to give Ukraine any money and Biden’s support for Israel is what’s driving his recent nosedive in popularity.

      • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        40·
        10 months ago

        Brandon could’ve easily secured his victory at any moment in the past 4 years. The orange man is the easiest election opponent in history. But he hasn’t, because he sucks ass, and he won’t, because he sucks ass.

        • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          11·
          10 months ago

          All Biden has to do to not lose is stop actively pushing off the people that elected him last time. He barely won last time and has actively been shitting on anybody who cares about labor rights and unions, the environment, or enthusiastically supporting a genocide.

          There’s legit a lot of people who want to hold their nose and vote for Biden and tell themselves maybe it’ll get better but Biden keeps coming out to explicitly tell them no, it won’t get better, fuck you, vote for me.

          • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            4·
            10 months ago

            It’s that last part coming from the mouths of smug PMC Dems that is already worn out. I get right wingers when they say they want to see libs cry because a small part of me feels the same way. Either way election night is gonna be fun

      • bigboopballs [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        18·
        10 months ago

        Brandon could very easily turn on the money printer.

        He might promise to do that (but even that is doubtful). I think Brandon will continue to do absolutely nothing.

    • Raebxeh@hexbear.netEnglish
      13·
      10 months ago

      If all I do is read the results of each primary and read the thread here, it will be an approximate 1000% decrease in time wasted from 2016 and 2020.

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      The only thing that can stop Trump is lawfare and legal issues, which will be seen by Republicans as a destruction of democracy and yet again stealing an election.

  • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    51·
    10 months ago

    Every time the news pretended any of these clowns over the Big Wet Boy, It further reinforced that the US’s dEmOcRaCy and Media apparatus is basically kabuki theater for people who barely achieved object permanance

    • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      27·
      10 months ago

      Yup all the reas9nable responsible liberals who constantly tell us we’re not serious and don’t know how things work explaining why this means Trump isn’t going to win.

    • WIIHAPPYFEW [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      8·
      10 months ago

      We don’t need him, mlady, I can take you to a deteriorating nice strip mall downtown wendys diner instead berdly-rose

      Wait for my black 1996 Lincoln Town Car with torn seats, power windows that don’t roll down, and rapidly eroding clearcoating

    • WIIHAPPYFEW [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      16·
      10 months ago

      I feel like that’s even more humiliating to Haley than if she lost even there, having your only victory be that slim can only be explained by the united harmony of the universe or whatever deciding to weaponize its pity towards her