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      Nobody wants to catch a life sentence over two dudes nature is going to take care of within the next several years

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      No one here gives a shit enough about the country to do so. The only ones even pretending to only show it via hatred of the “other”. It’s an illegitimate country and everyone’s aware of that, subconsciously or consciously. You don’t risk your life for a culture and state that doesn’t exist

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        And what’s the reason no one has assassinated Putin do you think? Is Russia also a fake country? Or a place where no one gives a shit enough to do so?

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          Nah I think a dictatorship is effectively a real country. Somethings holding it together. I’m not saying it’s good there, but there’s like an intention to it.

          The US is just a bunch of business deals in a trench coat. The politics and cultural meaning of the US is just a bunch of barking dogs.

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              I don’t want to speak for him, but I think what garbagio is getting at is that the USA is a settler colony and nobody who lives here except indigenous people has a real attachment to the land that goes back further than 532 years, and the USA itself is not even half that age. Though I’m inclined to point out that the USA a very powerful civic religion, that people believe in very deeply and that this helps substitute for the lack of a real long history. You don’t really need to be a “real” country like Russia with a 1000+ year history to be attached to your country and patriotic. Nationalism is cultivated through indoctrination into an established culture and civic tradition, not through having real indigenous roots in the land. After all, many places in the world have been conquered over and over and none of the original inhabitants remain.

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    Not a big surprise. Anyone who’s spent time in more reactionary parts of America can see the writing on the wall. New York almost went red in the gubernational election to a Trump guy and NYC was barely able to give Hochul the win over Zeldin. She could very well lose next term with how piss poor she’s been.

    The MAGA craze of 2016 isn’t there but you can tell that people loathe Biden and everything they associate with him. January 16th or whenever it was has also been glossed over in their eyes after they learned about the FBI infiltrating the organizations that went there. Covid isn’t going to save Biden and his wars in the Middle East won’t sway people that think Trump will be the one to end it. Even if Biden does end it, they’ll change the goal post to Trump won’t get into any wars at all.

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      It’s wild being in New York. We have the most useless dems in the country I’m pretty sure. Should be the bluest state in the country and they’re almost losing to republicans with the built in advantage of NYC.

      Not to act like weed is a top priority but the fact they “legalised” weed like 5 or 6 years ago and there still isn’t anywhere to buy it because of complete beuracratic deadlock is basically a perfect example of the state.

      Well technically do the right thing but we’re going to drag our feet the entire time and do the shittiest Jon possible seemingly just for the sake of being shitty.

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        The NY Dems are the perfect example of the Iron Law of Institutions, everyone at the top is more concerned with keeping their perch than winning elections.

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        It’s because Upstate New York is basically West Virginia, save for a few liberal bastions like Buffalo, Rochester, and Albany. There’s a lot of them electing right-wingers and they keep the state in a permanent deadlock.

        Also this recent gubernational election had the closest race since 2014 when Cuomo almost lost to Astorino.

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      *2000. He said those $2,000 checks would be in the mail if you vote for him (I’m not finding the exact quote, but you can go look it up). I don’t recall getting a $2,000 check, so he still owes me $2,000.

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      It’s not like Trump would have done so either. It would be mostly same as things are now but likely slightly fewer rights. It sucks to need to choose between 2 bad options but there’s certainly a difference in who they would fill their administrations with so still worth voting for the less bad option imo.

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    Honestly polling shouldn’t be taken seriously after the debacle of 2016.

    Biden is going to win for the simple reason that the bourgeoisie want him to win. Simple as that. The American people decide nothing.

    People who still think Trump has a shot, don’t understand that capitalism doesn’t make the same mistake twice.

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      Trump does all the same things that Biden does, so the ruling class have no reason to do anything to influence the election. And trump did give them a massive tax-cut back in 2017-2018, while biden increased the corporate tax rate. Furthermore, the ruling class is in no way agreeing on basically anything regarding policy other than “empire good and taxes bad”.

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        Read my response to the other user.

        Biden’s proposed corporate tax is supposed to take in $222 billion over 10 years, and his billionaire tax $440 billion over 10 years, so let’s make that $66 billion per year.

        Biden’s Fed rate hike has pumped out $1 TRILLION dollars to the rich people in 2023 alone.

        You can tax corporations and billionaires all you want, but the rich people all know who benefit them the most. The numbers don’t lie.

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      I disagree. Trump cut corporate taxes to 21% from 35%. Dems couldn’t do that. Also there are plenty of environmental regulations to eviscerate, psycho right wing chudges to appoint, etc. Biden holds the line but trump moves it right.

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        Trump’s tax cut is a joke compared to Biden’s Fed rate hike that has pumped out $1 TRILLION dollars to the rich people in 2023 alone.

        Biden’s proposed billionaire tax is supposed to rake in $440 billion over 10 years, and the corporate tax $222 billion over 10 years, that’s $66 billion per year, while $1 trillion is given back to the rich. How is it even comparable between the two?

        Biden made S&P500 gone up 50% higher than Trump’s highest point in just 2 years. If you owned stocks and bonds like most rich people do, you’ve just been made much much more wealthier than during Trump’s era.

        We’re not even talking about all the wars that have massively benefited the military industrial complex, the oil and gas industries, and the financial sector.

        What’s more, Biden made white people richer and black people poorer:

        Source: Federal Reserve, 2023

        This matters a lot to the white racist conservatives. Trump knows how to talk big but he cannot deliver. Biden proves that he can get things done.

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            It’s assuming white racist conservatives actually care about the stats. Democrats have routinely proven they’re more effective than the Republicans with their neoliberal agenda since the New Democrats took over. You could even argue since Jimmy Carter. Still hasn’t stopped Republicans that were considered extreme for the time from winning.

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              I agree completely. People who aren’t inside the US experiencing our politics first hand (and talking to people who live here too) just can’t comprehend how disconnected our politics is from reality. You gotta be here at least a little bit to wallow in the mud that is American political discourse to really get how stupid and culture-war-based it all is, for both the Dems and GOP.

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        Yeah I was pretty sure that the whole 100 day agenda or whatever it’s called that the ghouls behind Trump are preparing is to demolish the regulatory state.

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      don’t understand that capitalism doesn’t make the same mistake twice.

      WHUT

      What are some mistakes of capitalism that weren’t repeated?

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        Yeah I also want to know this. Every 10 years capitalism engineers the exact same deregularion-credit-inflation crisis and there’s no signs it will ever stop.

        It is true that capital was probably less pleased with Trump. Stock prices were more volatile and his wild rhetoric caused some countries to go protectionist. But also you can’t underestimate the bouegeoisie’s capacity to believe everything will be fine. They think they’ll handle things no matter which idiot is in the white house.

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      2016 polls had Hillary winning the popular vote by 3% (she won by 2%) and gave Trump had a 25% chance of winning the electoral college, they weren’t far off. A 6% lead is huge and Republican states have a natural advantage over the electoral college

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    Everyone is already forgetting the last supposed Red wave fiasco. The most you can say is it will be close and any talks about one leading the other is just BS.

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      Biden will win easily. Trump has lost a lot of independents centrist type dorks. And abortion being illegal has pissed a lot of people off: look at all the votes since roe vs wade was overturned - democrats significantly over-performed in every single one.

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        Trump has lost a lot of independents centrist type dorks.

        To a certain extent but people use the Presidential election to punish the party in power for the shitty economy. Biden is presiding over a shit economy and Trump is ironically the memory of a better day.

        And abortion being illegal has pissed a lot of people off: look at all the votes since roe vs wade was overturned - democrats significantly over-performed in every single one.

        Roe V Wade was overrturned pretty close to the midterms so I don’t think it’s going to have the same effect 2 years later. Plus, Trump could very easily say “Biden is doing nothing, look at his record, he isn’t even pro-choice.”

        Lastly, I think some general rat-fuckery in the favor of Trump is bound to happen in some states he may have lost otherwise.

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    remember when trump got like two billion dollars in free coverage from the news and everyone was like damn, maybe we shouldn’t do that next time

    Well, the news corps are at it again folks. More and more people are saying it. They’re gonna meme the big red boy into the white house again

    Two one term fascists fighting over which gets to be the next full term war criminal in chief

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    The nationwide poll of 1,250 U.S. adults showed Trump leading Biden 40% to 34% with the rest unsure or planning to vote for someone else or no one. The poll had a margin of error of three percentage points.

    […]

    Seventy percent of respondents - including about half of Democrats - agreed with a statement that Biden should not seek re-election. Fifty-six percent of people responding to the poll said Trump should not run, including about a third of Republicans.

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    Three-quarters of poll respondents agreed with a statement that Biden was too old to work in government, while half said the same about Trump, who at 77 would also be among the oldest U.S. leaders ever if returned to the White House. Just over half of Democrats saw Biden as too old while a third of Republicans viewed Trump that way.