The world isn’t on track to meet its climate goals — and it’s the public’s fault, a leading oil company CEO told journalists. Exxon Mobil Corp. CEO Darren Woods told editors from …
  • xantoxis@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2382·
    9 months ago

    It’s true, the fact that we never drew and quartered this guy does seem like a failure of our responsibilities

  • BigMacHole@lemm.eeEnglish
    1022·
    9 months ago

    It IS our fault! If we were TRULY responsible people he would have already met the GUILOTINE!

  • barkingspiders@infosec.pubEnglish
    67·
    9 months ago

    man who gets rich pumping oil out of ground blames everyone else for using it while offering no alternatives

    • Gbagginsthe3rd@aussie.zoneEnglish
      73·
      9 months ago

      Id actually be more forgiving if that was all they did. Except that wasnt enough, so they created a huge disinformation campaign and actively lobbied against meaningful change.

      They have divided their opposition so effectively that we are at the point where levers on our life support systems are being pushed and pulled while our most informed scientists dont know where or when the next catastrophic shift occurs.

      Buckle up, its gonna be an eventful 1000yrs

    • rockSlayer@lemmy.worldEnglish
      411·
      9 months ago

      This is Exxon we’re talking about here, they killed their research into biofuels and hid their research on climate change in the 70s because of the oil crisis.

  • tree@lemmy.zipEnglish
    521·
    9 months ago

    IT WAS ALL THOSE DAMN AVOCADOS, WHY DIDN’T WE JUST SIMPLY STOP EATING THOSE AVOCADOS

  • sirdorius@programming.devEnglish
    42·
    9 months ago

    In a functioning society these fucks would have been sued into bankruptcy for suppressing those studies in the 80s. In our society they can continue to make record profits every year

    • moitoi@feddit.deEnglish
      7·
      9 months ago

      80s? They knew in the 50s. They might even know before. With these liars, you never know.

    • Rhaedas@kbin.social
      42·
      9 months ago

      Except for one thing. Unless that society is also a lot different than ours, it would still require the product these companies produce to survive. So maybe a much stronger slap of the hand, but it wouldn’t eliminate them.

      • DessertStorms@kbin.social
        12·
        9 months ago

        We also require food and water and shelter and healthcare to survive, that doesn’t justify their commodification for profit, if anything it’s the best and foremost reason for those resources to be free for all. Just like the need for an energy source doesn’t justify anything the oil companies have done, which includes making sure every alternative to their product nonviable, or at least significantly more expensive to buy (though not to make!) so that people continue to buy their product that they have known for decades is destroying the planet.

        The idea that they can’t be eliminated is one they have planted in your mind, not reality.

      • Zitronensaft@feddit.deEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        Well keeping it cheap and poorly regulated helps feed into the dependence on it. If it was treated like a precious good only meant for essentials that can’t be replaced by anything else, maybe we wouldn’t have ever built up sprawling suburbs and exurbs that require a car to do every little thing, are searing hot asphalt hellscapes to walk through, and are poorly served by mass transit systems because of the previous issue. Maybe we also wouldn’t have plastic in mothers’ placentas today if we had cracked down early instead of covering it up for the oil producers’ sake.

        Oil is a finite resource, if all the droughts and mayhem from climate change don’t get us first, sooner or later the party will end and we will have to become a non-fossil fuel dependent world again. I doubt we will produce enough vegetable oil to replace it.

    • mods_are_assholes@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      Welcome to the world of regulation capture capitalism.

      There’s only one way out of this and its going to suck for everyone until we clean the filth that has corrupted our economy and government.

  • asteriskeverything@lemmy.worldEnglish
    23·
    9 months ago

    I am not at all defending anything in the article, and especially the oil industry.

    I hope some people read the article because I found it very interesting and a little challenging to my preconceived ideas. For example I read the first paragraph and my instant reaction was "straight to hell. Do no pass go. Do not collect $200) "

    that the world has “waited too long” to begin investing in a broader suite of technologies to slow planetary heating.

    But then it said some things such as their scientists had reported data predicting climate change in the 70s and 80s and in some cases had even more data than government programs. (I skimmed the article this one sourced) and how this current ceo is basically dancing thr tightrope of being an advocate for clean energy while working to the enemy and trying not to completely neuter them. and frankly, not that I believe this is the case at all but makes me laugh, a lot of what is quoted in the article sounds like an undercover plant trying to minimize harm cuz you can’t do it all at once.

    But yeah in reality fuck that. If you have the capacity to understand climate change and the gravity of the consequences, then literally nothing else should matter besides that short of ensuring your employees quality of life is good

    • kautau@lemmy.worldEnglish
      26·
      9 months ago

      Well yeah, it’s a PR move. Especially because they did their own studies on climate change and learned they would fuck up the planet and then laughed and said “well if we don’t do it, someone else will”

      • I Cast Fist@programming.devEnglish
        8·
        9 months ago

        Pretty much this. GM’s EV1 is a very interesting case. While it’s easy to understand why they wouldn’t want to produce it in significant numbers due to economic constraints (very high manufacturing price), their decision to recall all vehicles to destroy them was stupid beyond all reason.

        Also, according to wikipedia’s sources, ChevronTexaco, a fucking oil company, held a patent for a NiMH battery and made sure no one made any plug-in (battery only) car using it.

      • asteriskeverything@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        Oh for sure. I guess I just see this CEO a little more unique than most capitalist villains. It’s almost comical to me, I feel like he is trying to convince himself he isn’t a bad guy more than anything. Like it all stems from that. But it’s not funny because there are real consequences

    • SkyezOpen@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      9 months ago

      They buried the study for decades. If they actually gave a shit, oil execs could have injected billions into renewable energy R&D and made money hand over fist on selling the resulting tech, but it’s easier to burn the planet down so they didn’t. Oh, not to mention actively screwing renewable projects by buying people in congress. Fuck em all.

  • kbal@fedia.io
    19·
    9 months ago

    Carbon capture is “an answer in search of a question”

    I think we all know what that question is by now. “What approach to addressing climate change will make the most money for Exxon Mobil?”

    • tegs_terry@feddit.ukEnglish
      2·
      9 months ago

      Ooh, look at me! I’m making people happy! I’m the Magical Man from Happy-Land, in a gumdrop house on Lollipop Lane!

      Oh by the way I was being sarcastic

      Homer Simpson

    • FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1411·
      9 months ago

      Only if the electricity generated to charge your vehicle wasn’t connected to oil in any way, but you know what’s really environmentally friendly? Walking, biking, and public transit!

      • bouldering_barista@lemmy.worldEnglish
        13·
        9 months ago

        Free electricity? Check. Living in a city where I’m a 15 minute walk to grocery, food, coffee, and more? Check.

        Having to drive to work 25 miles away is where most of my driving happens.

        • FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.worldEnglish
          315·
          9 months ago

          Start job hunting? Apartment hunting? It took a lot of doing but I ended up getting to live close to work and it’s great! Remote work is pretty popular too these days…

          • rockSlayer@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6·
            9 months ago

            I assume you don’t live in the North America then, because in a vast majority of the US and Canada living in a walkable area and living close to work are mutually exclusive.

      • blazeknave@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        9 months ago

        But you know what’s actually helpful and contributing to the dialogue at this point? Supporting a comrade in their satisfaction that they’re doing better than they were before. You didn’t even acknowledge and validate that before throwing a “yes and” to make your point. Appreciate your well intentioned efforts, but this can turn some people off. I know I’d feel dismissed among other feelings. 🤷Maybe I’m soft.