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    Torrenting (especially with debrid services) is such a blessing for 4k. Even bluray 1080p looks amazing compared to the “4k” streaming services that gives like half that bitrate.

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    Piracy, piracy, piracy. I have 60TB of Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray movie files. Some are even better than the original disks because the uploading pirate makes a new file using the best video from one disk (like from Japanese release) then the audio from another (say French) and other stuff from other disks getting you a better version than any Blu-ray available to buy in the world!

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    And for many streaming services, getting true 4K streams costs extra.

    Otherwise they just feed you the 4K content but in lower resolution.

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        Netflix is very kind in this area, when they say it’s 4k, it’s 3840x2160p 4k, but it also is just a 720p video with linear upscaling applied.

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            The g’s in cellular data have long been devoid of any real meaning, and they keep coming out with more g’s that have essentially no improvements.

            Much like how Netflix advertises 4k when the quality is no better than 1080p at best.

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              What? 4k is literally a resolution, usually 3840x2160 or something around that. 1080p is another resolution, usually 1920x1080. These are never comparable.

              The G in 5G stands for generation. This has nothing to do with quality or speed, but it sets an upper limit. You can have 5G that is absolute shit or 5G which is state of the art fastest speed available (until 6G comes out).

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                4k is literally a resolution, usually 3840x2160 or something around that. 1080p is another resolution, usually 1920x1080. These are never comparable.

                You would be right if lossy compression wasn’t a thing. But it is, and it’s getting used a lot.

                “4k” can very much be worse than 1080p if it’s compressed in a way that erases more details. That’s what people are complaining about with streaming services and YouTube - the resolution numbers don’t mean shit, and quality at a given “resolution” has been degraded more and more over time.

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                I know these things. Doesn’t change what I was saying though.

                Netflix has been advertising content in 4k and then streaming it at a lower resolution.

                Likewise, the advertising for 5g leads you to believe that it is somehow vastly improved from the previous generation when no guarantee of that exists.

                But most importantly, all of this is stemming from a one line joke—it was never a serious comment on 5g or 4k definitions. I’m surprised that you took it that way.

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          Not in hungary… Here 5G is real, and it has 4G speeds, in exchange, you can get up to 2G speeds with 4G. And it also has 98% coverage, with the 2% following you even in the Telekom building

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    Ehhh I mean… outside of up close, high res gaming? 4k doesn’t matter, it’s an excuse to add an extra 1k onto the price tag of a tv or monitor. Refresh rate is way more important.

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      If you watch a 4k bluray. It’s night and day compared the 1080p. Same goes for the audio quality of them blurays. Compare 4k ones against standard bluray and there’s a massive difference. And sadly there’s also a massive difference favouring standard blurays against 4k streamed content.

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        Oh yeah there’s definitely a significant difference between 1080 and 4k visually, but it’s not super impactful for me anyway

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      My TV is 4K and I wouldn’t know if I’m watching something in 4K or not unless I was scrutinising it. Especially the attrocious bitrates services stream their 4K at. I do notice 720 is a bit “fuzzy”, but that’s about it.

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        Yeah 720 vs 1080 is very noticeable. I will say even 1440 has its place for specific types of displays.

        But it all comes down to distance I think, the closer you are to the display the more the pixel density influences your experience; refresh rate is impactful at any distance and resolution

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        I always use the resolution above my screen’s on youtube, because the bitrate’s so bad, and the difference is very very noticable on monitors

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        Maybe because your TV is too small?

        4k is not about a sharper picture, neither was 1080p. The sharpness was already good enough. The point of the increase in resolution is larger TVs at the same sharpness. Back when I had an SD TV it was 576p on a 28” screen. When I moved on to 1080p I got a 50” TV. Notice how the size and the resolution increase are in the same ballpark. Now with 2160p I have a 77” TV, so there is still a little wiggle room. I could get to 100” at 4k before I would have to consider 8k.

        TVs got larger over the years, and that was made possible by the increase in resolution. There is still some room for growth in 4k.

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      As a person who stares at a lot of text up close, 4k makes a difference. I don’t notice antialiasing pixels anymore, my eyes finally see it as a smooth blend and it looks like I’m reading actual print.

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      You can get a new 4K TV for ~200€, and most phones come with a camera greater than 8.3MP, but there’s almost no 4K content available outside of Netfilx shows and tech youtubers

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          It’s your opinion? Your opinion is incorrect. It’s an objective fact that 4K, not to mention HDR, matters.

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            I mean, that’s subjective. If it’s impactful for you? Then sure, it matters for you. It isn’t for me, therefore doesn’t

            The more important question, is why are you being so hostile over…. video resolution?

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      Depends. I never noticed it on streaming services (that might just be because they suck tho so idk) but once I tried it on a game on my PC it did look different. But the amount of added GPU power I‘d need is just not worth it imo.

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      Disagree. Watched a 4K HDR remux of Alien on my OLED TV last night and the quality was mindblowing. Bitrate matters more than resolution overall, but once you’re at the “enough” point you’ve gotta increase resolution to really push the quality up.

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    Because it isn’t subjective. It’s optics. I don’t abide jibjab. Write better if you just mean that you’re blind and couldn’t see the difference between watching Videoman and a Dolby Cinema. And just as cheap, apparently, because 1080-anything is either extinct or about to be… And replaced by 4K/3K/2K forthe same price.

    I’m not being hostile, I’m being smug. I can change to hostile if you like?