• Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Why do liberals need to believe their dumbshit baby politics are complicated? “It’s complex it’s nuanced” it almost never is, it’s just transparent corruption or warmongering.

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          I got told by my mom during an argument about Israel-Palestine that my solution (israel stops existing and israelis become equal citizens in Palestine) was utopian, shortly before she proposed nuking Israel because “they keep fighting no matter what, so this is the only way”

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        it’s just transparent corruption or warmongering

        That’s exactly why they need to believe it’s complicated. If they recognized that it’s not, they’d be acknowledging their own complicity.

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        yes it’s transparent corruption and warmongering, but it also maintains a system that provides me with cheap consumer electronics and year-round fresh tropical fruits, coffee, and chocolate, so it’s fucking complicated goddammit!

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        Because they need to be the smartest babyboys in the room, and if everyone has a simple solution, then you can feel really smart if you can point out how it’s not at all that simple actually. It’s literally all their policy.
        “Israel-Palestine is complicated.” No it isn’t, stop funding colonial settlers doing genocide.
        “Homelessness is complicated” no it isn’t, give them homes.
        “Starvation is complicated” No it isn’t, we produce more food than we need and throw most of it out before it even reaches a store. Give it away.
        “Healthcare is complicated” no it isn’t, make it universal like everywhere else
        “Education is complicated” no it isn’t, make it free
        “War is complicated” no it isn’t, stop doing it
        “Water scarcity is complicated” no it isn’t, stop having golf courses and stop growing pistacchios in a desert
        “Public transport is complicated” no it isn’t, you’re just wasting all the money on financing the private automobile industry
        “The massive prisoner population and wrongful incarcerations and shitty courts is complicated” no it isn’t, you’ve privatized prison and you’re using slave patrols to uphold the law. Don’t do that.

        Libs like to pretend like this shit is complicated so they can feel cleverer than the people that say the things are simple. Now if these things actually ARE simple, then the libs would turn out to be fucking idiots.

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          “Starvation is complicated” No it isn’t, we produce more food than we need and throw most of it out before it even reaches a store. Give it away.

          It’s worse than that. The US massively subsidizes a lot of staples. They’re dumped on foreign markets at below market prices. Local food producers can’t sell their product and eventually fold, shutting down their farms. Or they switch to cash crops. Then, when the US decides to send it’s grain somewhere else, or the market for hte cash crop collapses, there’s either no money to buy food or no food at all and people starve.

          A lot of 20th and 21st century famines were caused this way, with western powers, the IMF, the world bank, destroying local food security, forcing cash crops on people, instituting expensive input intensive farming practices unsuited for hte land, then wringing their hands and holding Live Aid concerts when a famine ensued.

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        Also just makes them sound like an incredulous moron to everybody who perfectly understands the problem because they aren’t desperately refusing to understand it.

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      If it’s too complicated, you just need to leave it to the experts. And we all know that the folks who make the most money know the most about things, so…

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    Ok let’s take a look at it from the view of the pandemic.

    Do we go with the guy who did almost everything he could to make the pandemic worse, or the guy who lied about giving people covid relief money then declared it over and forced everybody back into the office.

    The reason for disenfranchisement is that you can pick any topic and both candidates suck dogshit on that topic.

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    Nobody cares that Trump tried to overthrow the government. He had no chance of succeeding in the first place, and in the second I wish he would have, because it would’ve lasted all of about two seconds and at least we would’ve been in one of those weeks where decades happen. Also silly pretending that trying to overthrow the US govt is necessarily a bad thing.

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      “We captured the capital building, wahooo! That means we control things here at the heart of U.S. powe-” they are swiss cheesed through every window and wall by snipers and grenade launchers and heavy machine guns from planes

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      No one even remembers or thinks about it other than the most harebrained liberals. January 6th happened 4 years ago. The American political imagination barely stretches to the past 2 weeks and liberals expect people to still feel indignation for something that didn’t impact them, didn’t do anything, and happened so long ago it might as well have been fictional