• DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    just a few comments down their history

    Eat my dick hole tankie scum

    wild how often libs end up at homophobic and/or misogynist talk the moment they feel threatened. I feel like every wandering lib I’ve seen through federation takes at most like 5 comments to get there once anyone starts to argue with them

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      Just chiming in because I’m a pretty casual user, but recently my everything feed became flooded with a lot of antagonistic posts. After a day I realized they were all coming from the same instance. Ngl it was incredibly jarring, not enjoyable, and I couldn’t even tell what the takes being made were.

      “These people actively hate everyone,” was the exact vibe I was getting. I’m coming to terms with it but… Damn. As far as I’ve seen y’all are “big meanies.”

      The first impression was not good but I’m happy to dig deeper to figure out what your instance is all about.

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        If there’s one thing Hexbear users love doing, it’s dunking on libs. We’ve been building up posting energy for three years ever since r/chapotraphouse got banned. Since there are liberals amongst us again and this time they’re on our turf it’s been incredibly entertaining to make fun of them. Sometimes it is a bit aggressive I agree but it’s also very funny. Those threads, because they’re a novelty for us, often get a whole lot of comments and bumped up in the algorithm. What actually happens on the site day-to-day is a hubbub of chatter about being LGBT+, being leftist, talking about farts and pee and trying to be funny, talking about serious topics in the news megathread (which I don’t go to very often), talking about anime, supporting each other through tough times and building community, talking with each other and being friendly, and, of course, trains.

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          I definitely discounted the fact that the algorithm bumps up active threads, and the threads that always come up are memes and dunks. That’s really all I saw for my first initial encounters. Like I said, I’m happy to dig deeper and I appreciate you expanding a bit on the nature of your instance. Thanks!

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            It’s definitely different seeing it here versus seeing it on an instance that has 1/10th the activity.

            Sometimes we forget that we’re basically the largest instance and also have an incredibly well organized group of posters. Something that can be jarring initially when you’re exposed to it, but we really do try to be nice for the most part.

            We’ve also been through the growing pains of having a new instance. We grew from 2000 to 20000 users in like 6 months a few years back and the friction from that nearly broke the site, but after like a year and a half of working through it we’ve arrived at a very in sync and harmonious group.

            Also means we’ve been exposed to every possible struggle session imaginable and through the type of aggressive effort posting we do managed to arrive at conclusions. Which is another reason we can be overwhelming to new instances.

            An interesting side effect of this is a sort of self regulation. I’ve been moderating several decent sized comms there for a while now and almost never have to deal with moderator actions or reports because the community takes it on themselves to self moderate and do this sort of dog piling on people who come in posting bullshit.

            • This is my first and only account on hexbear, so haven’t been here since the beginning, but have come to love this environment even if I’m still too much of a lurker for the culture. It really felt like finding an online home instead of a subreddit. Seeing only a few of the major struggle sessions, I’ve come to much better understand socialist principles of communication around contentious issues, even if it’s just the terminally online version. I hope some of these federated communities come to understand these principles instead of just blocking it out of their minds like libs are wont to do.

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        We hate capitalism and all it’s excessive crimes and suffering it’s caused. We also hate people who are either too lost in ideology or benefitting from the suffering under capitalism who also put up shitty defenses of capitalism.

        Really we just want people to read more but the privileged or sheltered who can’t tell capitalism is bad can’t be “bothered” to read or care about those who suffer from their ideology upholding the capitalist system.

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          You are being uncivil to the most murderous empire in world history, which is actually worse if you really think about it.

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        Much appreciation for the openness and willingness, I just subscribed to dbzer0 today <3 Indeed, would be nice to hear more about what you saw that felt antagonistic. I’m personally suspecting the root cause being just different cultural wavelengths, but would be cool to know more.

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          At this point I can safely say it was just memes and their comments. The “dunking on libs” rhetoric made me think some instance had been taken over by crazy far right assholes or something. It honestly read like a truth social-type thread. Without context phrases like maga and fjb wouldn’t have been out of place.

          … Except for the pro-lgbtq+ stuff sprinkled around in there haha. That’s what really made me go, “wait who the fuck are these people?”

          Now I have a better understanding. Y’all really are crazy, but not the crazy that scares the shit out of me and my personhood. Like someone else said, different wavelengths. Same direction though

          • The “dunking on libs” rhetoric made me think some instance had been taken over by crazy far right assholes or something. It honestly read like a truth social-type thread. Without context phrases like maga and fjb wouldn’t have been out of place.

            I’m going to repaste a comment I’ve made a couple times already, just because I keep seeing this (understandable) issue come up:

            Just so it’s clear, OP isn’t drawing a distinction here between amerikkkan liberals and conservatives. A lot of times when leftists complain about liberals or liberalism, people who aren’t exposed to leftism will mistakenly take this to mean that we’re pro-conservative. We are NOT pro-conservative.

            When we talk about liberals, we mean in the broader sense of people who subscribe to the philosophical tenants of liberalism, or in other words, people who think that capitalism is a good and/or natural thing. To us, conservatives are pretty much just a subset of liberals who have even more reactionary opinions about certain social issues than the standard liberal. This misunderstanding isn’t the fault of the people who misunderstand, mainstream media depicts all politics as being a binary battle between the dems and the GOP, a sport where two teams face off and that’s it. But in much of the world, “liberal” is actually synonymous with right wing and that’s how we use it. In the US, liberal tends to mean “left wing” but only because the overton window is so grotesquely far to the right, and anticapitalism isn’t even a consideration in US politics.

            Forgive me if you already know all this, but because we’re seeing new people around here due to federation, I think it’s a good idea to point this out and avoid the possibility of conflating our utter contempt for liberalism with any sort of positive view of conservatism.

            I really appreciate that you came here and talked to us in good faith and gave us some valid criticism. That’s always a good thing, even when it can be hard to hear, so thank you. Personally, I loathe the thought of being mistaken for a right wing asshole, and I do feel that if we’re coming across that way, then we need to work on fixing our rhetoric.

            I do hope you stick around, or come back every now and then. Our community is dedicated to fostering “left unity,” so we really want to be inclusive to everyone who is, as you said, headed in the same direction, even if the wavelengths are different. If there’s something you feel we do or believe that doesn’t sync up with your own wavelength, ask us about it! It possibly might turn out we’re more in sync than it at first seemed. But over all, I think I can speak for most of us here when I say that we strive to be kind, compassionate, and supportive to anyone else who also genuinely strives to be kind, compassionate, and supportive, especially to those who are the most vulnerable in this capitalist society.

            “If you tremble with indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine.” ― Che Guevara

            che-smile

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              That’s awesome, thank for reposting your comment. I’ll be back to educate myself further. And I agree that “the left” in America would be conservative in much of the world. The fingerprints of puritan colonizers remains all over modern society

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            Y’all really are crazy, but not the crazy that scares the shit out of me and my personhood. Like someone else said, different wavelengths. Same direction though

            Thank you cat-trans

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    We’re just too cute. They’re trying to brush up on the written works of Mao Tse Tung, but every time they look up from their book and see us smile they get lost in our eyes.

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    “The Reason” is a song by American rock band Hoobastank. Released on January 26, 2004, as the second single from their second studio album of the same name, the power ballad[4][5] is Hoobastank’s most commercially successful single, peaking at number two on the US Billboard Hot 100 and number one on the US Modern Rock Tracks chart. In 2005, it was nominated for two categories at the 47th Grammy Awards: Song of the Year and Best Pop Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals.[6] Internationally, “The Reason” reached number one in Canada and Italy and peaked within the top 10 in 10 other countries. Chart performance

    On March 20, 2004, the song debuted on the US Billboard Hot 100 at number 62, becoming that week’s “Hot Shot Debut”.[7] It reached its peak of number two after 13 more weeks on the listing, giving the band their highest-charting US single. Though it remained on the chart for 38 issues, it was their last Hot 100 hit.[8] The single peaked atop the Billboard Adult Pop Songs, Modern Rock Tracks, and Mainstream Top 40 charts.[9][10][11] In Canada, it topped Radio & Records’ CHR/Pop, Hot AC, and Rock charts.[12][13][14]

    In Europe, “The Reason” reached number one on the Italian Singles Chart and the UK Rock & Metal Chart for two weeks each.[15][16] On the UK Singles Chart, it debuted and peaked at number 12.[17] Across the rest of Europe, the track entered the top 10 in Austria,[18] the Czech Republic,[19] Greece,[20] the Netherlands,[21] Norway,[22] Sweden,[23] Switzerland,[24] and Wallonia.[25] It was also successful in Oceania, reaching number seven in Australia and number five in New Zealand.[26][27] Music video

    The music video for the song was directed by Brett Simon.[28] In it, the band members stage a diversion so they can carry out the elaborate theft of a ruby gem from a pawnshop, but those facts are only clear after enough of the action unfolds: nothing is as it seems. At the beginning of the video, a woman (played by Serbian model Nevena Milicevic)[29] gets hit by a car driven by vocalist Doug Robb. After the “accident”, while everyone’s attention is diverted, Chris Hesse and Dan Estrin execute the heist. The viewer then realizes that she was in on the operation, as she gets up and rides off with an accomplice on a motorcycle at the end. The presumed owner of the pawnshop displays a look of realization, and the song ends with the band admiring their new acquisition, holding it up to the light and projecting red light-rays onto the ceiling. The accident’s “victim” is also present. They then hear police sirens from above, and the video fades out.

    Their music video “Same Direction” is intended as both a sequel and a prequel to the video for “The Reason” and further details the band member’s roles, as well as showing the trouble they bring down on themselves from law enforcement.[30] Track listings

    UK CD1[31]

    "The Reason" – 3:52
    "Crawling in the Dark" (acoustic version) – 3:09
    

    UK CD2[32]

    "The Reason" – 3:52
    "Out of Control" (live) – 2:52
    "Running Away" – 2:59
    "The Reason" (video) – 3:52
    

    UK 7-inch single[33]

    A. "The Reason" – 3:53
    B. "Out of Control" (live) – 2:52
    

    European CD single[34]

    "The Reason" (album version) – 3:52
    "Meet Hoobastank" – 5:49
    

    Australian CD single[35]

    "The Reason" (album version) – 3:52
    "Meet Hoobastank" – 5:49
    "Crawling in the Dark" (acoustic version) – 3:09
    "The Reason" (video)
    

    Credits and personnel

    Credits are adapted from the US promo CD liner notes and The Reason booklet.[36][37]

    Studios

    Recorded at Bay 7 Studios (Valley Village, Los Angeles) and Sparky Dark Studios (Calabasas, California)
    Strings recorded at Capitol Studios (Hollywood, California)
    Mixed at Image Recording (Hollywood, California)
    Mastered at Precision Mastering (Los Angeles)
    

    Personnel

    Daniel Estrin – music, guitar
    Douglas Robb – lyrics, vocals
    Markku Lappalainen – bass
    Chris Hesse – drums
    Howard Benson – production
    
    
    
    Mike Plotnikoff – recording
    Casey Stone – recording (strings)
    Chris Lord-Alge – mixing
    Deborah Lurie – string arrangement
    Tom Baker – mastering
    

    Charts Weekly charts 2004 weekly chart performance for “The Reason” Chart (2004) Peak position Australia (ARIA)[26] 7 Austria (Ö3 Austria Top 40)[18] 5 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Flanders)[38] 12 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Wallonia)[25] 7 Canada AC Top 30 (Radio & Records)[39] 3 Canada CHR/Pop Top 30 (Radio & Records)[12] 1 Canada Hot AC Top 30 (Radio & Records)[13] 1 Canada Rock Top 30 (Radio & Records)[14] 1 Czech Republic (IFPI)[19] 2 Denmark (Tracklisten)[40] 20 Germany (Official German Charts)[41] 15 Greece (IFPI)[20] 8 Hungary (Rádiós Top 40)[42] 20 Ireland (IRMA)[43] 35 Italy (FIMI)[15] 1 Netherlands (Dutch Top 40)[21] 9 Netherlands (Single Top 100)[44] 16 New Zealand (Recorded Music NZ)[27] 5 Norway (VG-lista)[22] 9 Scotland (OCC)[45] 6 Sweden (Sverigetopplistan)[23] 8 Switzerland (Schweizer Hitparade)[24] 6 UK Singles (OCC)[17] 12 UK Rock & Metal (OCC)[16] 1 US Billboard Hot 100[8] 2 US Adult Contemporary (Billboard)[46] 17 US Adult Top 40 (Billboard)[9] 1 US Alternative Airplay (Billboard)[10] 1 US Mainstream Rock (Billboard)[47] 4 US Mainstream Top 40 (Billboard)[11] 1 2021 weekly chart performance for “The Reason” Chart (2021) Peak position US Hot Rock & Alternative Songs (Billboard)[48] 25

    Year-end charts Year-end chart performance for “The Reason” Chart (2004) Position Australia (ARIA)[49] 58 Austria (Ö3 Austria Top 40)[50] 31 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Flanders)[51] 97 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Wallonia)[52] 55 Germany (Official German Charts)[53] 75 Italy (FIMI)[54] 48 Netherlands (Dutch Top 40)[55] 28 Netherlands (Single Top 100)[56] 96 New Zealand (Recorded Music NZ)[57] 43 Sweden (Sverigetopplistan)[58] 82 Switzerland (Schweizer Hitparade)[59] 44 UK Singles (OCC)[60] 177 US Billboard Hot 100[61] 6 US Adult Top 40 (Billboard)[62] 2 US Mainstream Top 40 (Billboard)[63] 2 All-time charts All-time chart performance for “The Reason” Chart Position US Adult Top 40 (Billboard)[64] 27 US Mainstream Top 40 (Billboard)[65] 52

    Certifications Certifications and sales for “The Reason” Region Certification Certified units/sales Australia (ARIA)[66] Gold 35,000^ Denmark (IFPI Danmark)[67] Gold 45,000‡ Germany (BVMI)[68] Gold 150,000‡ Italy (FIMI)[69] Gold 25,000‡ United Kingdom (BPI)[70] Gold 400,000‡ United States (RIAA)[71] Digital 4× Platinum 4,000,000‡ United States (RIAA)[72] Mastertone Gold 500,000*

    • Sales figures based on certification alone. ^ Shipments figures based on certification alone. ‡ Sales+streaming figures based on certification alone. Release history Release dates and formats for “The Reason” Region Date Format(s) Label(s) Ref. United States January 26, 2004 Alternative radio Island [73] February 4, 2004

      Mainstream rockactive rock radio

      [74] February 23, 2004

      Contemporary hithot adult contemporary radio

      [75] Australia May 17, 2004 CD [76] United Kingdom May 31, 2004 7-inch vinyl Mercury [77] In popular culture

    The song appeared on the PlayStation 2 music video game SingStar.[78] “The Reason” also appeared in the first episode of the 2023 Netflix comedy-drama series Beef.[4]

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    I generally don’t agree with viewpoints on hexbear but defederating would be stupid. I want to see things I don’t agree with.