• ThePyroPython@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    215
    ·
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    Millennials are wasting a 1/3 of their day in laying in bed. We spoke to industry experts about how this generation habit is impacting productivity.

    • phoneymouse@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      7 months ago

      They’re killing the furniture industry! Their habit for laying in bed is reducing the demand for things like dining room chairs, recliners, couches, and sofas.

    • JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      29
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      Your comment reminds me of that time The Wall Street Journal unironically told people to save money by skipping breakfast.

      • Spacehooks@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        20
        ·
        7 months ago

        Sigh I grew up poor. Only got food at dinner. My family didn’t qualify for free school lunch. Learned not to eat as often. Was a change when my SO wanted 3 whole meals a day.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      7 months ago

      They’re already blaming Millennials for killing the real estate industry by not buying enough houses.

          • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            edit-2
            7 months ago

            I’m completely fine with that. I don’t want to waste time engaging in the generation wars that boomers, millennials, and gen z go back and forth on all the time.

            I hope I said the right gen names lol

  • ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    116
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    7 months ago

    if quiet quitting is “doing your job”, then wouldn’t having a normal lunch break be “quiet starving”?

    I write this as I am quietly constipated.

    I’m kidding, this is the loudest shit I’ve had in weeks. The acoustics in here are fantastic.

  • EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    77
    ·
    7 months ago

    “Experts warn: Getting a living wage is bad for the economy”

    Yes, the same “experts” that crashed the economy through fraud in 2008.

  • Veedem@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    71
    ·
    7 months ago

    Millennials being blamed/credited for an incredibly short lunch break is amazing.

      • luciferofastora@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        18
        ·
        7 months ago

        And then there’s me, just barely Z, office job, heading for lunch at 12 with my boss, his boss and some other colleagues, chatting about whatever (not work), eventually getting up to head back to work around 1250 because some of us have meetings at 13. My boss asks me if I want to grab a cup of coffee with him, we end up sitting in the break room for another half hour, eventually turning to work topics too.

        On my timesheet, I write lunch 1200-1230 for the legal minimum 30 min break. My boss signs it. Nobody bats an eye.

        Sure, I’m incredibly lucky, but I’d wager being in a unionised company in a country with fairly strong union protections (Germany) does some work too. If my boss started being a stickler for rules, I’d be talking to my union rep, and that just doesn’t end well.

        They’re scared enough of the union that, when a round of negotiations failed to achieve the result they were hoping for and the union put out notice (as in, flyers in the break rooms) that they’re considering the threat of strikes, the CEO immediately announced raises retroactively effective for the whole month, “as a show of goodwill”.
        Previous negotiations have also resulted in flat one-off payments even for working students. A 500€ tax-free bonus might not sound like a lot if you’re making 4k+ net, but for me it was half a month of wages.
        Also, I have 30 days of paid time off, on top of bank holidays and unlimited sick leave (provided I submit a doctor’s note on the third consecutive day). One coworker was sick for over half a year.

        Unions work.

      • Kowowow@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        17
        ·
        7 months ago

        People actually get 60 minute lunch breaks? Is that with two 15 minute paid breaks too?

  • THCDenton@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    51
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    7 months ago

    All these online outlets are ragebait trash. The fact that they paywall is the cherry on top

  • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    44
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    7 months ago

    I’m Gen X and you bet your sweet bippy I quiet nourish, usually ending up eating my lunch at 10 am. And nobody could do anything to me about it because I’m in a union. I’ll suck every morsel of fun or comfort out of my workday I can. Hell I might just take this new job I interviewed for which is from home and take up crochet. There’s not a thing they can do. Unions are great.

    • RubberElectrons@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      26
      arrow-down
      43
      ·
      7 months ago

      I support unions. Don’t give the enemy fodder for reasons why unions are bad.

      I’m sure you work hard, and deserve time to relax as well, even on the clock. It doesn’t come across that way with your comment. Thanks.

      • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        7 months ago

        Me acting like a functioning adult who doesn’t need to be micromanaged all day and can take a few minutes and enjoy myself is anti union? No it’s pro human.

        • RubberElectrons@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          7 months ago

          Sorry that that’s how you’re interpreting it. Just being explicit that there’s a balance between being a mooch, and taking care of yourself.

          • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            7 months ago

            That’s like so boot licking, the very idea I could somehow mooch off the company who exploits my labour. Screw that.

            • RubberElectrons@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              7 months ago

              Strange how the dictionary has different definitions for the two words.

              I’m used to needing group buy in for things that are potentially dangerous for their careers here in the US. How do you think your message of “sucking every morsel out of each day” comes across? Staying at home to knit on the clock?

              I agree the system is designed to be exploitative, but I can’t change that alone.

      • subignition@fedia.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        7 months ago

        …Did you misread their comment? You’re not making much sense here, and I like to think my reading comprehension is at least above average…

        • RubberElectrons@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          7 months ago

          I don’t believe I have. “I’ll suck every morsel of fun out of the day that I can” and “they can’t do anything because I’m in a union” don’t come across as positive statements.

          Tone gets lost in text, so I can’t be certain of intent, but I need to stress that unions exist to ensure fair treatment of us workers, at it’s core. Get paid, be safe, and be respected. Those comments I responded to don’t seem to consider that there’s gotta be a fair exchange back to the employer as well, otherwise we’re dooming the symbiosis that develops.

          That’s my take, downvote if you wish.

          • subignition@fedia.io
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            7 months ago

            I definitely read it in more of a bit of a proud tone; “even if they tried to mess with my lunch break, union’s got me covered” or so. That’s probably where we diverged.

            As for their first quote, well, I just figured that even if you’re in a union job, it’s still possible to not enjoy the job – I’m not about to find fault in someone coveting the small moments of fun they get in their workday. (As an aside, even if a company is legally required to recognize a union, I figure “be respected” isn’t really more likely post-unionization than it is beforehand, at least at most companies.)

            Hope this helps

            • RubberElectrons@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              7 months ago

              I suppose it’s up to individual on how they interpret it.

              I personally word my statements carefully to reduce the odds it gets misinterpreted, butt it still happens on occasion.

              If I’ve misinterpreted here, whoops. Onwards we go with no ill-will to anyone.

          • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            edit-2
            7 months ago

            Tone gets lost in text,

            Is just another way to say you need better reading comprehension. Buy a bunch of books and read them. Humanity hasn’t had tone get lost in text for thousands of years until suddenly it’s a problem for a small group of people on the internet.

            • RubberElectrons@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              7 months ago

              What a polite and constructive comment.

              “A bunch of books”… Resoundingly low effort, friend. Have a great day 😉

            • octopus_ink@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              7 months ago

              Ah yes, because professional writers, classical poets, authors of the most famous works of history, and random people posting from their toilets on the internet are all equally good at conveying nuance and non-verbal cues.

              • Promethiel@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                7 months ago

                They don’t even realize the absurdity of the example. I’d wager that after spouse and/or deity, you can ask the world’s top 10 writers who their favorite person is and they’ll name their editors/someone of significance to the revision process (we know or can guess at least one reason to revise text, eh?)

                We’re so bad at gauging tone throughout text that wars have sparked, entire industries eat, and people make a living on precisely how to phrase things in official writing. But no, Internet commenter says just grab random books and go to town y’all 🤣

              • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                7 months ago

                I’m not sorry if you’re unable to grasp context. That’s a you problem.

  • cosmicrookie@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    38
    ·
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    Unions here require you to take 30 minute lunch breaks plus a 15 minute break between that and end of shift (for the regular 8 hour shifts)

    • Valmond@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      47
      ·
      7 months ago

      France here: 45 min lunch break minimum legally, but it’s usually 1h30 (or 2h).

      • Dasus@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        7 months ago

        Finland here. Legally it’s supposed to be at least 30 if not 45 min, and we’ve laws about overtime and what have you but I never got them in a single place of work and somehow the bosses just kept getting away with it.

        Even somewhat large companies.

        I have never worked a job in my life that I was actually afforded the protections and rights that the law required. Some I left, some just wouldn’t change.

      • acetanilide@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        7 months ago

        I have never had that long of a break, even in grade school my lunch was 15-20min including standing in line to and from the cafeteria

        • BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          7 months ago

          some days the line moved too slow so you just didnt get to eat. also you may have lunch debt so you get your food taken away and given a cheese sandwich

            • BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              7 months ago

              well the classes after me have, at least at my high school. when i went there they got rid of the soup and salad line (but kept the pizza line?) but after i left they added a shitload of different food options and even a fucking panini bar

        • Valmond@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          7 months ago

          How the hell, what was you served that you could both queue and eat in under 20 minutes? I remember that awkward planning one year in school when we had something like 35 minutes and everyone was raging about it, teachers includec, we just didn’t had the time to queue, eat, get our books and be at class in time.

          • acetanilide@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            7 months ago

            You know how ex cons have that stereotype of ingesting their food in 3.5 seconds? It was like that, but with kids

            • Mirshe@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              7 months ago

              I had a coworker assume that I was some sort of felon because of this.

              No, just retail work in a shitty state that does not mandate any breaks for employees. You learn real quick how to eat a sandwich and be back on the floor in 2 minutes so your manager doesn’t jump down your throat.

      • StinkyRedMan@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        7 months ago

        That’s not true, french law doesn’t guarantee a break specifically for lunch. It guarantees a break for an amount of time wich depends on the duration of the workday, usually 20 minutes. Source ( in french)

        I’ve been working temp jobs for the past 10 years so I worked for dozens of companies and of the top of my head I can only remember 2 which gave me proper lunch breaks lasting more than 30 minutes.

    • Moneo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      7 months ago

      Yes actually, I think you literally die if you don’t sleep long enough. After 72 hours or so you start hallucinating but who knows if those hallucinations affect productivity? Only one way to find out.

    • SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      7 months ago

      I’m a big fan of “quiet walking my dog during a meeting where I don’t need to talk”

      Note: This only applies to remote work

      • pearsaltchocolatebar
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        7 months ago

        I just play video games during those meetings.

        There’s literally 0 reason for me to be on 50% of the calls I’m invited to (I’m IT and they have me on every dev call)