I find this mildly infuriating, I only use Windows for work, I even personally purchased Windows 11. Local account and disabled as much as I could. I personally do not like Windows or Windows in general.

Well, now I do an update and they throw this up like I need to walk thru these steps (again). Not even a “Skip”/“Don’t remind me again”. Windows is not what it used to be and after disabling half the Microsoft stuff I’d expect not to be bothered again. It’s really a built in ad more then anything.

2023-08 Cumulative Update Preview for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5029351)

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    Remind me in 3 days. That shit should be against the law. There should be a don’t bug me ever again option.

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    That’s actually a good thing IMO, Microsoft is giving people more reasons to switch to Linux. How kind of them!

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        Debian have been fucking awesome since i installed it 23 years ago! It was leaps and bounds better then it’s contemporaries.

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          I agree, although I used to use it for a dev server and SSH in. It’s a great piece of kit!

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          Random question but you’d probably know. If I had Debian 11 when debiann12 came out will it update or do you need to reinstall? How has this worked in the past and how do you think the jump from 12 to 13 will work?

          I’m used to rolling releases but I recently put Debian on my laptop

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            I have never needed to reinstall Debian. if sources.list say stable, you’d upgrade automatically. but normally the sources specify the release name “bullseye” and you would change that to bookworm when you want to upgrade.

            I installed Debian potato right after 2000 sometime. Because i was so annoyed by running into rpm hell with early redhat releases whatever and having to reinstall all the time. and I apt upgraded to Debian woody, and following the release notes, everything worked. At the time that was wild to see. Have been running Debian on all the servers i touch at work since. The Release notes contain information about what is changed from a regular installation. So you can follow the new defaults if you so want.
            I DD’d the installation to a larger harddrive, before upgrading to sarge. and by then it had become a bit of a sport, while not being necessary in any way I have kept on upgrading, and moving my daily driver over to new machines for fun.

            If you want a rolling release, you can run Debian testing, if you want stability you can depend on, run Debian stable. testing will stick a bit before release, and then have a period of rapid changes after release, but for a not critical desktop, it is generally very nice.

            if you want to keep your system healthy tru the decades make sure you read the issues to be aware of in chapter 5 of the release notes for each new release : https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ they contain vital changes you may want to do to keep your system more similar to a freshly installed one.

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          Debian is the most stable operating system ever, and it’s new version 12, is a really good OS.

          What I liked was that it starts quick, never crashes, uses minimal system resources, and with GNOME has an excellent UI. Being a Linux OS that isn’t Ubuntu and isn’t Windows, it doesn’t spy on me.

          Also love operating systems that use Bash or similar. I know how to drive them, I don’t know how to drive MSDOS.

          I have a very powerful computer but the start time difference between Windows 11 and Debian is insane. Debian starts almost instantly.

          I was specifically trying Debian as a gaming platform, so I installed Steam and GOG and a couple of Windows games running through proton. They worked really well.

          In the end I had to go back to Window, because it’s just not there for me yet. Most games worked well, but a few have unacceptably low performance. It requires a bit of fiddling to get everything working right as well, because some of the defaults prevent people from just gaming.

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      Good point, adds to the mountain. I may just see if I could run a windows VM at this point tbh.

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        I switched to Pop!_OS recently and Windows runs faster in a VM

        (because you’ve only installed the 1 app you need to run not your entire life, and then snapshot it after debloating so it’s always the same)

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          Yeah, I think I am going to setup a VM. I only need it for work due to Windows apps that would work just fine in a VM.

          I am actually considering Qubes OS, which might take some work but overall would probably be a good seamless process.

          How do you like Pop!_OS? I was looking at System76 computers one day and looked into it a couple years ago. Never gave it a try though, based off Ubuntu right?

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            Ubuntu/Debian base yeah.

            It just worked out of the box for me and runs everything that kept me locked to windows so I’ve stuck with it.

            I’ve run Handbrake in a VM because the linux version doesn’t allow setting the default folder for some reason but otherwise haven’t needed Windows in months. and as long as I don’t need to do anymore bulk trascoding I’ve probably seen the last of it.

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        If you don’t play games like valorant, and only need windows for specific tasks then going with a windows VM is a good option.

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          We’re getting there! There’s still games that run much better on Windows, and some games still don’t have Linux support. But the numbers are shrinking like crazy (THANK YOU STEAMDECK, Steam is the best company for game health as a whole.)

          Also with VR… well, I don’t actually know. I haven’t tried, but will my index be fully functional (and run as well) on Linux?

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      It would not help. They just buy a Chromebook instead because there are no other alternatives in the shop. It would be a different story if the thing when you start the new computer get a guide to choose your OS to use. Even better if Android was the same. EU should force this IMO.

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      ah yes the non-idealistic idealist, i always admired your kind

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      Its actually worse than that. I PAID for Windows. If I paid for WinRAR they would stop.

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        Well WinRAR only nags you when you use it, unlike windows that is always running and almost always nagging.

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      I wish they went with the winrar model. Winrar just nags you once when starting. Windows keeps trying to trick you into giving them your data and signing up for a subscription.

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      Don’t you compare windows to that time honoured and helpful software. WinRAR knows when to quit, and is free

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    So many comments shitting here and not giving helpful advice at all, so so fucking stupid. The best way to get ahead of this would be when the next time this pops up, press Shift + f10 and then type “OOBE\BYPASSNRO” easy and simple, takes only a few seconds and makes everything more seamless, such as no one drive bullshit etc…

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      Easy and simple

      Dont forget to shit on linux afterwards for how difficult it is

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        Honestly I find constantly having to keep on top of disabling questionable windows features and bloat (knowing I’ve definitely missed something) more difficult and exhausting than just using linux. Linux feels way more “easy and simple” to me than windows ever has been.

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        I really didn’t think anything about linux before but the number of people on lemmy being so annoying about linux just makes me really dislike it.

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          Right? The top comments being people commenting just to laugh at the guy using windows on a work computer is grossing me out. They’re like the loud vegans for computers. Just like veganism I agree with a lot of it but the fan base (for lack of a better term atm sorry) is SO aggressively off-putting lol

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      press Shift + f10 and then type “OOBE\BYPASSNRO” easy and simple, takes only a few seconds

      Not picking on you, that is actually really good advice and a neat shortcut I’ll be trying myself. I just think it’s funny all the reddit threads regarding Linux usage, someone will pop in with a simple commands to get whatever the user wants done quickly (Ex: Open the Console and type “sudo apt update” then “sudo apt upgrade” and you’ll be good!) and they get shit on with comments like “OMG! You have to Open a terminal to do anything! This is why Windowz rules and Linux is for fanboy dorks!!”

      Btw, I dual boot.

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        I understand. I use Linux with dual boot myself and I know how great and free it feels to just use a terminal for everything. However, I cannot count how many times I have been frustrated when something just doesn’t work. Some software that doesn’t exist in apt is can be hard to install sometimes if you have to compile it yourself. And if you want to delete something that you didn’t install via apt?? Good luck with that. Linux doesn’t exist without its own problems. The use cases for both windows and Linux are very different. It doesn’t fit everybody

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      I believe this method was blocked. But it’s also not what the screen shot is. This is an update screen.

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        It worked on my machine. Also, why would they block it?? This specific command was definitely added by some Microsoft engineer, and not just for shits and giggles. There must have been some reason to add it in the first place, and certainly no reason to block it.

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          Sorry, missed your reply. I run the setup for Windows on a lot of computers. Last time I tried that command it wasn’t working. I used to be able to start the setup and once you got to the point of needing to sign in to a Microsoft account you could skip it. They removed that. Then this command you are talking about worked for a bit. Then removing the ethernet cable worked for a while, Microsoft closed that too. Currently I connect the machines to a network and attempt to log into an account, but mistype the password. This will give an error and allow a local account. Unfortunately these are machines for sale, so I can’t use a Microsoft account like they want. It’s a whole “thing”. However, if it’s your own machine, use Rufus to create a boot disk that will bypass the Microsoft account requirement.

          Why would they block it? Because they want everyone to use a Microsoft account, and they have been getting more and more aggressive about it.

          Edit: forgot to mention again, OP’s post image is from an update message and not initial Win 11 install. The command to skip the sign on is for OOBE, “out of box experience”. Aka initial setup.

          For this screen not to come back, Settings notifications turn off the last three checkboxes

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      How did you learn this? Serious question, as I probably will be using Windows at whatever job I get. A huge part of what has made Linux so easy to learn is that there’s always documentation. There’s no secrets, even if it might be a lot of reading. Everything I learned about Windows I either bumbled my way into it or learned from someone else who was taught.

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        To be honest, you just have to Google things that you really want to fix. Genuinely just ask it how to make simple things simpler and you will find so much helpful stuff out there. If you feel some discomfort while using windows, know that there’s always a way to make something easier and simpler, you just have to find it

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          To be clear, I’ve been using Windows since I was literally in diapers [3]. Only this summer did I take the plunge and actually start using Linux as a daily driver. I generally know my way around a Windows system because of Googling things I don’t know.

          My concern is because I have been using Windows as a “home” user, e.g. on non-enterprise systems, there’s going to be a whole bunch of stuff that I don’t know that I have no chance of finding unless I happen to know an experienced sysadmin.

          IMO, Googling [1] things is often how I solve computer problems, but it’s a very strange way of working if you think about it. Shouldn’t our software tell us how to use it? At the bare minimum, software designed for use by the general public, including those who aren’t familiar with computers

          It’s a bit of a strange response, “go to company A for information about company B’s products”. And yet, it is the response I unfortunately have to choose time and time again because Microsoft is too protective of their secrets, including apparently how to use their OS. Microsoft, who as a reminder is a business trying to convince me to keep buying their product, should be the primary source of information about their product.

          Microsoft does have some online support, but they don’t have it at the level of detail that Linux does. What has really amazed me about Linux is that the various developers actually tell you how to use their software [2]. If there’s something not in the manual, they probably don’t know enough about it to have finished the documentation. In those scenarios, you can go make an issue on GitHub. As complicated as Linux has been to learn, it’s been a lot less “Google [1] it” and a lot more “read the docs”.

          If you feel some discomfort while using Windows, know that there’s always a way to make something easier and simpler, you just have to find it

          Well…no, actually. For example, if I want to replace the user interface, you cannot do that. You can change it cosmetically, and there are a few registry entries you can fiddle with, but if you want to throw out the whole thing and use a completely different desktop environment, you’re out of luck. I installed my copy of Debian with KDE Plasma, but I also installed LXDE as an option for the rare cases when I need all 16GB of my RAM. I also tried out XFCE and LXQT to give them their fair shake. The default for Debian is actually GNOME, which I knew from prior experience was not for me. Actually, I wouldn’t use a system where the only option is GNOME, so the freedom to choose a desktop environment (or none at all; e.g. window managers or the command line for the brave) was a precondition to my adoption of Linux.

          Every single part of my system can be swapped out for something else. Even the kernel need not be “pure” Linux. For example, I do a lot of real-time audio computing, so I’ve been “shopping for” the best kernel for real-time audio. There are a few patched kernels specifically for real-time applications, although the default Linux kernel is quite good.

          This is far from the only area where Windows locks you into a choice. Actually, it’s a lot worse than that; Windows (more accurately Microsoft) continues to lock me into choices because I have to limit my choices to those that work with Windows installations. They could add Linux compatibility to their systems (because the whole ecosystem is open source, they don’t need to reverse-engineer anything; just copy the Linux stuff!), but they choose not to do so, and instead insist on proprietary formats.

          [1] I don’t use Google search anymore. IMO the only use case for Google search is when you are somehow required to use it. In the example above, I would never allow company A to be Google, because based on Google’s history it is clear that Google ought not exist. I often allow company A to be DuckDuckGo or an amalgamation of stripped results from SearXNG, but even then I think that the usage of company B’s products should be the domain of company B.

          [2] It’s not perfect, but systematically it seems like more than an attempt has been made to document the various FOSS software components. For example, some of the more obscure KDE software have holes in the docs, which I have actually been running up against in the past few days. The rest of the KDE software has excellent documentation, and if you’re a Plasma user, it’s probably already on your computer. Remember, this is coming from a largely volunteer development force; compare that with the power and professional workforce of Microsoft.

          [3] I have worked and played in every non-enterprise Windows OS from Windows 95 to Windows 10. I have used Windows 11 a handful of times but I’m not very familiar with it, besides the baseline familiarity that comes from working with NT systems in general.

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            What’s your point here? If you want to argue with me about semantics then I absolutely could not care less about it. Yes of course you can’t change shit, because windows is designed this way. It’s made this way for people who don’t know how to do things be able to easily Google their problem and find a step by step solution that is almost certain to work since windows ui doesn’t change a lot. Also, at this point googling is a popular verb which means “searching shit on the internet”. Use whatever browser you want, I use brave search and searx from my distro. Congratulations on successfully shitting on windows, like everybody else in this thread.

            Of course Linux is better for most intents and purposes, but that’s entirely not the fucking point here. The point here is how to use windows better? With all the shit Microsoft does? And the answer is you search it on the internet, it’s just how it is and complaining about it and saying Linux does it better does not change anything.

            If you have a problem in windows, for example one of the things I was really annoyed about in win11 was that whenever I searched something on the task bar, an internet result would pop up that will open bing on edge. I didn’t want that so I googled it (searched on the internet with brave search) and turns out that you can add a registry my that can disable all web searches from the taskbar! So Yay one annoyance fixed. There are hundreds of things like that which you can just search and figure out a way to disable a shit Microsoft thing or bypass it.

            What I had originally meant was that in general, you can control a lot behind the scenes in windows, even if you can’t see it up front. You can shit on it all you want but being toxic to people and telling them to install Linux is obviously not the way to go. Gatekeeping is for idiots. Use what you want to use, do what you think is best for you, and I do what is best for me. From time to time I do use windows to play some games that don’t work on Linux yet, or use some software that doesn’t support Linux and I don’t want to spend hours trying to figure out how to install there. It’s efficient for me and that’s how I keep it.

            Windows is terrible at a lot of things, and Linux is terrible at a lot of things too but those things are completely different and it is no use to compare as everyone’s needs are different. There is no one size fits all, there never will be.

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      Yeah just a bunch of Linux nerds on their high horse feeling smug. This attitude actively pushes people away from your platform, not towards it. If you want more people to use Linux the first step is NOT acting like a smug dick about it.

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        Exactly, the one thing you cannot do is force someone to move to Linux. They eventually do it on their own when they get tired of being shit on by Microsoft, or just see in general that yeah! This specific thing is gonna make my life so much easier! That’s why I did it and I understand why people wouldn’t want to switch to it, there’s nothing that we can do about it

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      I wonder whether the developers who wrote this script, did it in order to avoid these annoying messages by themselves

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    If it’s your own machine, I recommend running one of the Windows 11 debloaters.

    I’ve moved all of my personal machines over to Linux (specifically Ubuntu). Windows just isn’t worth it anymore.

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      That’s a good recommendation, I actually did run a windows debloater/spyware before. This just happened to be snuck in with an update I guess? I should probably do it again at this point.

      I wouldn’t use Windows if I didn’t have too…I do run Tails and Ubuntu as well but unfortunately 40hrs+ a week on Windows…it sucks.

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        Run the debloater every update. Some stuff in there is actual settings, but other stuff will be “repaired” by windows.

        Also, a workaround to that screen (so far, at least) is to shut the computer down and start up again and it doesn’t return till next update.

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        Question: if you already don’t like Windows, I assume you don’t care about the new features that come with new updates. So I wonder - why do you update at all? Set everything up as you want it, remove all the hot garbage as you see fit, and disable updates.

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          Skipping software updates is not a good idea, let alone OS updates. Inbetween all the terribly annoying bullshit they insist on foisting off on people, they do provide security patches and so on.

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          Primarily for drivers and security updates.

          You have a point, I could turn off updates and manually update as I need too but my frustration is that there are ads in the first place.

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            my frustration is that there are ads in the first place

            Fair enough, a very good point.

            Personally I’ve been using customized / debloated versions of windows for a couple years now and have not looked back. Every time I spin up a stock Windows VM I’m shocked how atrocious the experience is. Though I understand that a Windows ISO modified by an unknown third party can be scary to some.

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              I think I would trust an unknown 3rd parties ISO more then the stock Windows at this point really…

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                There’s been a pretty recent development in the Windows Customization community which released a new toolkit, essentially allowing you to write YAML-based scripts with custom instructions how to modify a live windows installation, which makes the process completely open-source and transparent. I can link some of the projects pages if youre interested to learn more.

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      How do you like the Snap store and snap packages being pushed on you silently when you try to install packages through APT? :)

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        Give them a break. They just moved from Windows, you just need to relearn to breath after that. Moving to another distro is a small step in comparison.

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          Not new to Linux, it’s literally what I’ve been dealing with for work for the last decade. I just meant that I moved the last of my personal machines away from Windows.

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        I have run into zero issues installing packages from other places. The snap store is a bit annoying but not a big deal. I’ve been on and off using Ubuntu since ~2005 so that’s why I went with it over another distro.

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        Speaking from experience here. I’ve done this on over a dozen different computers with zero issues over a three month span. It was part of a proposal for transitioning our company computers to Windows 11 while cutting out the junk. None of them had any problems running without Xbox services, Cortana, bloatware games, activity tracking, etc.

        We ended up using Microsoft Intune for restricting Windows 10/11 to our standards. But that’s not really available for consumers and debloaters are safe to use instead.

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    This kind of shit is what made me switch to Linux. I just didn’t feel like I owned my computer anymore.

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        I would love to switch, I’ve used Linux a few times but primary use of my machine is for gaming, Valve have done wonders with Proton and the Steamdeck but imo it’s probably not quite there yet?

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          Depends what kind of games you play. Games like Fortnite, Roblox (though it seems a workaround is being worked on?), R6 won’t work because of their anticheat systems.

          Personally, 100% of my Steam library of 200+ games work perfectly on Proton.

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            Last time I’ve tried gaming on Linux I had a bad time even connecting my controllers on it, it’s plug and play on windows, do you think there has been any improvement on that regard?

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              Is not only improved, but it’s getting better. I find it hard that a controller didn’t work on Linux. Which ones were there? Xbox works plug and play, always had. Linux got Play Station controls to work on them before Windows had a driver for them. Originally those things were paid options on Windows. Third party are pretty much cookie cutter drivers that all have always worked seamlessly on Linux. If you have any lingering doubt, you can read the reviews on the Steam Deck, essentially, if it works on a Steam Deck, it will work on a PC with Linux installed. Steam’s BigScreen mode turns any regular PC into a controller-centric Console like experience.

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                Yeah, I play with generic ps4-like controllers. I’ve been really considering switching to Linux these days, but I feel like such a beginner… Anyway, thanks for the response!

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      Yeah, I’m going to see about Quebes or just running VM inside Ubuntu at this point.

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    The most infuriating thing about windows to me is the big stupid fucking red X on every single file, reminding me that I’m not currently storing my shit on someone else’s computer. Is there a way to remove that service from my computer entirely?

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    It’s not your computer, it’s Microsoft’s. That’s the message I get from using windows.

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    Eh, this particular screen is kind if misleading. You say you dont see a “skip” or “do not remind again” button, well that’s because those buttons are on the next screen(s) for each individual feature. I’ve gotten this screen a couple times, just click through and you can skip/opt out of all the features. It’s kind of silly, but I think the point is that they want you to look at each new feature individually.

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      Yeah, but nothing here would be considered as a “new feature” and each is an ad for a product that OP chose not to use during initial install. As such, s/he shouldn’t be reminded of them, especially not during an OS update and certainly not with an unskippable window. Yes, s/he has the option to skip each feature individually later, but this initial window is either a “remind me later” or a “do it now”.

      To get into specifics of each item:

      OneDrive has been around forever.

      If OP customized his/her browsing experience, s/he clearly doesn’t want “Microsoft recommended browser settings” (which, by the way, is Edge with Bing search and with all telemetry turn on high).

      365 has been around for a while, and this thing is pushing the subscription (by definition, an ad for a paid product).

      Windows Phone app isn’t new, either.

      Microsoft Hello has been around for about as long as Windows Phone app and features.

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      Then this screen itself is misleading, because it gives no indication that you don’t need to do the stuff. It should have the X to close the screen, like every other window that isn’t malware.

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        It should have the X to close the screen, like every other window that isn’t malware.

        In other words, it’s designed exactly as intended.

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      And those dollars need to go up so those who invest get returns. And you are an idiot if you don’t invest your money, what kind of loser doesn’t invest their money? Don’t you want your dollars to go up?

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    Image Transcription:

    The Windows 11 Set Up Wizard with the following text: Let’s finish setting up your PC Your PC needs to be backed up and connected to a few more Microsoft services to help you work more easily and securely across all your devices. Back up your files with OneDrive cloud storage Have peace of mind knowing they’re backed up and available across your devices. Enhance your web browsing experience Restore Microsoft recommended browser settings. Achieve more with a Microsoft 365 subscription Get premium Microsoft 365 apps, 1 TB of cloud storage to back up files and photos, and more. Back up your phone to your PC Access your phone’s photos, texts, and more, right on your PC. Sign in quickly with Windows Hello Securely unlock your device with a touch or a smile. Below are the buttons Remind me in 3 days and Continue

    [I am a human, if I’ve made a mistake please let me know. Please consider providing alt-text for ease of use. Thank you. 💜]

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      Is there a way to put alt text in lemmy? I could see the benefit especially for screen readers. I could only see putting it in the content section right?

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    Windows 10 is my last windows. When it’s no longer supported I guess I’ll have to learn to use Linux.

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      I’m not waiting for that, just waiting until I have a free few days to figure out linux.

      Also abandoning Android for Graphene as soon as I get a new phone.

      Enshittification advances ever onwards

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        Give us an update in a few months how that goes for you

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          Been on Linux for 15+ years and on graphene for about a year. It’s fine. Keep a backup (quarantined) Windows box for games but don’t use it much.

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            Keep a backup (quarantined) Windows box for games but don’t use it much.

            The last vestige of my Windows install is a disk image that I haven’t touched in half a decade. The SSD it was on itself has long since been reused for something else.

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        It only takes like an evening. Go with Linux Mint and essentially you will be using your computer in a half hour. Everything else is the fun of discovering all the cool stuff that Linux does easier and more flexible than Windows.

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          Agreed. Linux Mint shows just how turnkey the user-friendly distros are these days. Even though it is not designed as one of the lightweight, speedy and efficient distributions for experts, it absolutely feels that way compared to windows. And that’s with windows running natively and Mint in a VM.

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            The terminal is essentially arcane magic, with bash scripting out of the box, this is big if you’re a programmer. Most Linux desktop environments have workspaces and tiling features which make workflow really easy and fluid. Something that Windows is only getting now on W11. Everything is customizable, so you will learn the meaning of the term “ricing”. Which is to make your desktop look as cool as possible, since everything from the fonts and icons to the color of the taskbars and transparency are 100% customizable. There are several rabbit holes you can choose to go into just on aesthetics. But then you have actual productivity stuff like learning your distro’s package manager, backup utilities, etc.

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              Just wrote myself a bash script that uses ssh to fork to background, authentication via key to an ssh server it creates; forwards to tor; tor OR proxies to socks5; creates a shadowsocks server and client, connects the client; and forwards to a remote socks5 server via ssh dynamic forwarded port.

              This is my first real script.

              Linux is bonkers.

              I love it.

              Also: Gtk is the way. Qt is not my friend.

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      You could try dual booting to make the migration a little less extreme. I started that around the time Windows 11 came out and realized about a year later I don’t use Windows for personal stuff anymore. Windows is now gone and I do not really miss it.

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    Don’t support Windows. Just use windows activation scripts and run Chris Titus Tech’s Windows security and debloating script. If you can, you’re better off on Linux.

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    Go to Settings > System > Notifications. Turn off the last three check boxes. This screen won’t come back.

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    I swear this gets posted weekly, there’s a simple solution but it’s always missing from the comments.

    Go into notification settings

    Uncheck “Suggest ways I can finish setting up my device to get the most out of Windows”

    While you’re at it, turn off any of the other suggestion / recommendation settings.

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      I did already have this turned off, and it still pops things up like this and trying to get me to sign into a Microsoft account. It’s just annoying and they don’t provide an option to skip or don’t remind me again which makes it even worse.

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      The problem is, there’s no immediately visible option to stop this crap; stopping said crap therefore takes time, which is an individual person’s single most valuable resource. People have to go searching through settings or go googling ‘how do I do this’ in order to disable this, and even that slight inconvenience means there’s going to be a lot of people that want to disable it, but end up not bothering, and that’s not a good thing. Rule of thumb, if it’s not absolutely trivial to do on a whim, it may as well be impossible.