YouTube Shorts - You’re mildly infuriating!

Ever since I was forced to update YouTube on my devices, I got really annoyed with YouTube Shorts. At first, they were easily turned off. Then the option to turn them off disappeared from Settings - General. So I installed apps that allowed to skip out on Shorts. Then just a few days ago I could no longer have Youtube Vanced installed.

I’ve since learned do deal with this annoyance, but do I really have to mark “Not Interested” from channels I don’t subscribe to or “Hide” from my subscribed channels? On my Linux- and Windows PC’s I have regular blockers. But I mainly watch content on devices hooked up as small entertainment screens in the kitchen, bathroom and bedrooms. And those are iOS or Android.

All I want are steady streams of content from my favourite relaxing subjects and channels. Without shorts or AI-derived “Hey, this video from a channel featuring a redneck with 15 AR-15’s shooting coyotes in the desert might be your thing!” inserted into my playlists or streams. But the AI-derived autoplay content is beside the point.

YouTube Shorts - You’re mildly infuriating!

  • trambe@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Ya agreed, I wish YouTube would’ve just pushed it as another app instead of forcing it down the main YouTube users throats.

    Like, I don’t even mind short tiktok like videos, but yeah I don’t go on youtube for that

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      1 year ago

      I can second this enthusiastically, especially since it also blocks ads and sponsored segments, customizes the UI, allows background playback, allows downloads, and more stuff too.

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        1 year ago

        yup it blows my mind that this is a much better experience than youtube premium not to mention you get it for free

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          yup it blows my mind that this is a much better experience than youtube premium not to mention you get it for free

          Pretty much sums up all forms of piracy these days, given how bad the official media landscape became.

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            1 year ago

            or in some cases prices are simply outrageous, i can not afford to pay that much for a medical textbook i will just sail the high seas and repay my debt by saving lives

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              or in some cases prices are simply outrageous

              Even if individual prices aren’t: no person with somewhat normal amount of income can pay for everything they’re interested in (unless the scope of interests is very narrow). Streaming services here, “Patreon exclusives” there. It adds up. I miss the time where all professional content was just on Netflix instead of spread over 30 services.

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          The fact that free apps (or hacks, like Revanced) are better usually has to do with the incentives driving their development.

          For services like YouTube, Hulu, etc., the developers are doing it as part of their job, with overall direction set by the company. They may not agree with the overall direction, or may not even use the product, but they have to do what the company says so they can keep their job and get paid.

          On the other hand, for small independent projects, the developers use it themselves and are building it based on what they want plus community feedback. If it’s open-source, other developers can contribute features they want to see, too.

          This is why pirate video apps (both old ones like Popcorn Time, and also newer ones like Syncler, Weyd, CinemaHD, etc) generally have far better UX than the “official” services - it’s developed with love, not with a “get this done so we can go home by 5” mindset.

          There’s also some things the official services don’t even do. If you want to stream a movie in full quality (like a Blu-ray remux), the only way to do it is via something like Weyd plus Real-Debrid. None of the official streaming services have videos this high quality. Missed opportunity, IMO.

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    1 year ago

    Also infuriating: With how much YT is incentivizing creators to create shorts, a bunch of channels I follow no longer even make regular 10-15 minute content regularly.

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    1 year ago

    Be reasonable. All sites must have Stories, and they must have Short Vertical Videos. They must. Surely you can see the necessity of that.

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    creators cutting 16:9 videos to the worst possible format (phone vertical) ugh

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    1 year ago

    Try ReVanced it doesn’t have the shorts button, and you can remove shorts from your home feed.

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    1 year ago

    I don’t mind shorts but their recommendations are somehow even worse that regular yt recommendations. And those are already dogshit…

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      There is one thing about it being voluntary to create. But they’re pushing YT Shorts down both content creators and viewers throats.

      As a former teacher and mentor, I agree with the thought to make content more interesting and digestible for the younger generation. What I don’t agree with is packaging everything into mindless kick-rewarding (dopamine hitting) bits, like Candy Crush, One armed bandits or Tik Tok videos.

      If you package too much study content into this kind of easily digestible and forgettable bits, you have to remember: it flows out from their minds almost as fast as they spent the effort to see it… maybe it lasted longer if they shared it with their friends/network, but the lesson you wanted them to absorb will mostly disappear faster than the time it took you to create it.

      We work (and should work) to create (at least some) lasting impressions that educate. The most memorable moment that one of my study groups had with one of their “cool TikTok and Fortnite savvy” teachers was when they did candy flossing after it stopped being cool. What lessons he taught? They couldn’t remember if it was English or Math.

      Sorry for my rant. I digressed.

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        1 year ago

        I love the rant. Titrating (pardon the pun) content to kids and having them engage properly is such a big battle.

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    1 year ago

    I hate shorts and I’ve unsubscribed from any channels that make shorts.

    I don’t subscribe to you for a 30 second adhd friendly clickbait video. Major respect lost for some channels.

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    Ya, let’s keep shortening everyone’s attention span… Hate all short form videos!