I was looking for something different from Tor and not like I2P. Someone give a look on Lokinet? What’s your thoughts?
Edit : I know that is based on oninon nodes I mean about the privacy feature and what have to offer more
I am concerned that the payment for starting a node would create an effect opposite of what’s advertised. Looked it up and the cost of setting up a node is more than all my savings. That absolutely deters an average Joe who just wants to contribute to the network. Who would want and be able to set up a node then? Either crypto enthusiasts or someone who has big funds already. Like big corporations and government agencies. Also if the operators of the nodes receive money, that means someone would have to lose money, right? Sounds a little bit like a pyramid. Maybe I am wrong, but the logic seems weird.
I’m not sure it’s a pyramid structure. To me what you have described is rather a service provider structure. In a pyramid those who pay don’t get anything in return, no?
I mean, I am confused where they would take the money if we assume everyone who paid to set up a node gets 100% of their money back.
Wait wait what?
Just stick to signal, briar and matrix for now, this network still needs to stand the test of time
Those are messaging apps, totally different things. What OP tells about is overlay networks over the internet that hide your traffic.
Briar is a network it uses tor as well
Tor is to lokinet just as briar is to session
Can also recommend signal and matrix
Briar is probably the best of the 3 except that it uses too much battery
Not for privacy it isn’t
can you explain how briar isn’t the best for privacy?
That is because I had Matrix and briar confused. Matrix is the one with no forward secrecy or whatever it was called. If someone gets your Matrix key, they have all your previous messages.
No they don’t, matrix has partial forward security, it does rotate the keys for messages, not for every message, but it does rotate them for all users in an encrypted room if a user has a new login so that session can’t read past messages until it gets keys shared by verifying with another session, same for when a user joins the room and maybe leaves the room
If you call it forward security I think you should ask yourself if the dude who swapped names is maybe more correct as he has the right jargon ;)
Maybe edit your reply then
I think downvotes should be enough ;)
Do you mean Oxen? Not all that many people use it apparently. I use Session messenger but it’s not super reliable… Although no worse than Matrix I gusss.
I do like the decentralised onion style of networking with no reallife identifier, for obvious reasons. There’s some crypto mining involved (like legit opt-in for which you need to set up a node, not something secret on the background) which may sound dumb, but imo it gives people the incentive to run nodes and widen the network. Unlike Tor where the incentives are… None, unless you have a specific reason to run a node.
I use it, and never really had issues with it. It was pretty reliable.
Same, Session is great because it focus on privacy. You can contact people only by knowing their public ID but you don’t know their private ID which is used by the user to decrypt the messages. As there is no central server, nothing is kept outside of your local Session instance. Pretty decent to me.
Currently Tor is safer, Lokinet isn’t that better as they advertise it. I just keep a eye on it
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It seems promising but its not the only player in the game. Tor is the oldest and most reliable but there is also i2p and the new freenet
