• cynthorpe
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    43
    arrow-down
    21
    ·
    5 months ago

    Water isn’t wet. Wetness is a property that occurs when a liquid adheres to a solid surface due to cohesive and adhesive forces. Water molecules exhibit hydrogen bonding, creating a network, but they themselves aren’t ‘wet’ until they interact with another material.

    • thefartographer@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      26
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      5 months ago

      Counterpoint: water is wet because it is the wet.

      A powerful example of such a scenario is this quote from the philosopher, Batman:
      “I am vengeance! I am the night! I.am.BATMAN!”

      What this proves is shut up, water is wet. 😡

    • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      5 months ago

      Rain is wet, it is not adhered to a solid surface. The middle of the ocean is wet even if there’s no solid surface near by.

      • ABCDE@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        5 months ago

        Isn’t it only wet after it touches you? You can anticipate it’s wet, but the state would exist after contact.

        • Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          5 months ago

          Aren’t the molecules touching other molecules wet if it involves touch?

          An individual h2o molecule can’t be wet, but if two of them are touching, they are both wet.

          • ABCDE@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            5 months ago

            Wet to the touch, not to each other. It changes the property of something else to make it wet.

            • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              5 months ago

              A wall can be wet, it doesn’t require a person to touch the wall before it can be called wet. So the sense of touch is not required for something to be wet.

              It changes the property of something else to make it wet.

              If the wall was dry and I add water to it I have changed this property, if the wall is already wet and I add water to it I have changed nothing. Therefore if I add water to something and do not change its properties then it was already wet in the first place.
              If adding water to water does not change its properties then the water was already wet in the first place.

      • cynthorpe
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        5 months ago

        How would you know if it was wet if you’re not around

        • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          5 months ago

          If a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound?

          I thought we were talking about science, not philosophy.
          How do we know the properties of black holes, distract stars, and the early universe if we’re not in them?

            • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              5 months ago

              So a person doesn’t have to be physically present and interacting with something in order to know the physical properties of it.

              • cynthorpe
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                5 months ago

                I think it might be wet somewhere. But I am not there, and I cannot know unless I am there to experience the essence of wetness.

                • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  5 months ago

                  I’m not going to put much faith into an argument on “what is wet” from someone who isn’t sure if a rock on the bottom of a pond is wet unless they reach in and touch it.

                  • cynthorpe
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    5 months ago

                    I’m not going to allow my eyes to become wet over someone who doesn’t understand that everything has been a joke.

    • Maven (famous)@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      5 months ago

      I am of the opinion that a single molecule of water is not wet but since water makes other things wet… A molecule of water would make the surrounding molecules of water wet. Therefore pretty much any example you can give of water is wet unless you mean just a single molecule of water separated from anything else.

    • Dkarma@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      5 months ago

      So you’re telling me that water makes things wet. That makes it wet as a verb, so flatter us in fact wet all the time