• @ravhall
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    I don’t see the crime. Man games system. Man makes money. No crime.

      • @ravhall
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        2210 days ago

        Is it? Taking money from big corporations, using their own machine? Sounds like you don’t know much about capitalism.

    • @hades@lemm.ee
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      yes, calling it a heist specifically is extremely colourful in the wrong way

    • Otter
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      It does help set a good precedent. When companies try to do the same thing, further hurting smaller artists, we can point to this case

      • @ravhall
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        But corporations rarely get punished. So, I see a small fry taking advantage of a loophole to make money.

        Granted, this person really should have quit before they got noticed. You get caught when you get greedy.

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          It’s not a loophole, though. Their ToS specifically prohibits creating artificial streams. The guy isn’t going to get away with it. The AI generated music isn’t a problem, but spinning up bots to give it streams is the same as using click bots to farm ad revenue. If the man catches you, the man’s gonna win.

          Vulfpeck made a silent album and asked fans to stream it nonstop. THAT was a loophole, because there wasn’t anything spotify could do, there wasn’t anything in their agreement that said they couldn’t do that, and that’s awesome. Spotify (and the others I assume) has since plugged that hole, but I applaud them for taking advantage while they could.

          Yeah, I have to think there are others out there doing this same thing at a smaller scale, being more subtle about it, and not getting caught. This guy just got a bit too greedy.

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              ToS was the wrong term. Artists agree to a contract when they monetize their content on Spotify. The contract specifies exactly what the artist will be paid for. If the artist was misrepresenting facts in order to be paid more than the contract would otherwise stipulate, it’s called fraud, and that is a crime.

              Artificial streams are not new. Spotify has many articles dedicated to describing the problem of artificial streams, and the penalties for artists engaging in it. Here are One, Two, Three of them just from a single search.

              This is a loophole in the same way that taking stuff when the owner isn’t looking is a loophole. In other words, it’s just called a crime.

              • @ravhall
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                I provide places with my name misspelled all the time. That’s misrepresenting, but not a crime.

                A billion dollar company got played. Change the code and pay out the money. Are they going to refund advertisers? Doubt it.

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                  You’re not entering a contract with those people, let alone being paid. If you believe you’re getting paid in an untracable way, your govt would like a word with you.

                  I don’t know why you think the company got played, did you read the article? Dude is busted. Best case, they’re going to garnish his income for the rest of his life.

                  • @ravhall
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                    19 days ago

                    Well, did he not pay taxes? If that’s the case then yeah, he’s dumb.

                    Always pay your taxes!!!