• Snot Flickerman
      link
      fedilink
      English
      53
      edit-2
      11 days ago

      and there’s no way Rockstar is going to be paying $99 million dollars for just songs.

      GTA V/Online produced $8.5 billion in revenue.

      I mean, I guess you’re not wrong, (how else could they be milking it for this much money but being cheap?) but it still makes them fucking cheap bastards.

        • Snot Flickerman
          link
          fedilink
          English
          23
          edit-2
          11 days ago

          should’ve asked for a sliver of a percentage

          I think it’s really clear that Rockstar is trying to avoid a repeat of past soundtracks and licensing issues and they want these up-front with no royalty payments to make in the future, so they don’t have to keep re-negotiating licensing (and having to remove/replace songs in old games).

          I still think this guy was being smart for asking more, even if he asked too much. You’re right, he shouldn’t have high-balled, but he was smart enough to understand getting a percentage or royalties was probably almost assuredly out of the question.

          • @stardust@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            English
            1411 days ago

            I’m glad Rockstar is taking the route of trying to only get songs that they won’t have to remove down the line. Should be the move forward for all games. Wish same would happen for racing games too. Would rather have knock off brands over delistings.

        • Snot Flickerman
          link
          fedilink
          English
          37
          edit-2
          11 days ago

          Actually, yeah I can. Every time a fucking bean-counter makes a living humans life worse at their job to save the company a buck is a great time to blame accountants for doing their fucking jobs.

          • sunzu2
            link
            fedilink
            411 days ago

            Accountants don’t make decisions, they are just paper bitches for real people along with shit like lawyers and marketing. They just present the numbers to business leadership who makes decisions on which expeses to approve.

    • @SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      2111 days ago

      I love Lemmy, but the general consensus of “fuck big corpo no matter what” attitude is kinda tiring. This is completely reasonable for Rockstar to reject the counter offer. Not to mention, Heaven 17 is not some big band to begin with.

      • @teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        911 days ago

        Agreed. As I understand it, $50k-$100k is on the high end for a TV show to use a clip from a very well known song in an episode. Some band I’ve never heard of being paid $22k for their song to be played in the background of a game might be a little on the low end, so it’s totally reasonable for the band to counter, but it’s also totally reasonable for Rockstar to turn down a 10x counter. Publicly crying about it seems childish. The game is gonna happen with or without your song.

    • Altima NEO
      link
      fedilink
      English
      5
      edit-2
      11 days ago

      Especially when they’re kind of a 1 hit wonder.

      https://youtu.be/mpPFxqgfBAI

      But asking for as much as they did, you’d think their songs were much more popular. They’re no Billy idol, Depeche Mode, Tears For Fears, etc.

      • Snot Flickerman
        link
        fedilink
        English
        1411 days ago

        If they’re a 1-hit wonder, maybe that’s why they want more up front: In case they gain no new listeners from the GTA 6 soundtrack and continue to be a 1-hit wonder.

        It’s like why football players have insane-sounding contracts: Because in the future they won’t be able to make the same kind of money.

        Sounds to me like homie was smart and thinking long-term.

        • Altima NEO
          link
          fedilink
          English
          511 days ago

          Yeah but their an 80s new wave band. I don’t think they’re making new stuff these days.

          • Snot Flickerman
            link
            fedilink
            English
            911 days ago

            Further cementing my point. If they’re not making new stuff and this deal gains them no new listeners: it’s a bad deal.

            • @BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one
              link
              fedilink
              8
              edit-2
              11 days ago

              I just heard some of their tracks and I feel like it wasn’t a huge loss not being able to hear a Duran Duran or Depeche Mode wannabe band while I’m murdering hookers in GTA6

            • Altima NEO
              link
              fedilink
              English
              611 days ago

              I don’t see the logic in that though. They can’t really expect to be paid so much more than groups who offer greater recognition. It’s like charging more for the Walmart brand over the name brand product.