• @NatakuNox@lemmy.world
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    8020 hours ago

    We need to switch from our current American view that all nudity is sexual. If you see a someone naked doesn’t automatically make it sexual!

    • @Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works
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      21 hour ago

      Are you male or female? In this case, it matters.

      You see, males (for the most part) ARE attracted to breasts! It’s hard wired in our brains! Even gay friends have an obsession with boobs! We men LOVE boobs!!

      If you want to go topless, I say: FUCK YEAH!!! But I feel like the disconnect comes from some people feeling violated if men stare. I’m sorry, but if there are boobs within eyeshot, I’m gonna be looking at them. I might try to hide my gaze (because I don’t want to make anyone uncomfortable), but I’m gonna be checking them out. As frequently as possible. Because…boobs!!

      I’m sorry if this is not the kind of response you were looking for, but…BOOBS!!

      • @NatakuNox@lemmy.world
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        447 minutes ago

        I’m a cis heterosexual male. I love all things about a women’s body, but I’m mature enough to not pop a boner just because I see a naked attractive woman. Like is that honestly hard for some healthy adult men?! Like if that woman and I are making sexual advances towards each, game on! Otherwise, what’s the big deal?

        You are talking about culture not purely biological. Before clothing men weren’t walking around with erections all day. Same thing goes for many other cultures. The obsession with seeing anything naked is because we treat all nudity equally when it’s not. I see it as a personal control and character issue that is ingrained in western and Abrahamic religions areas.

      • @pingveno@lemmy.world
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        18 minutes ago

        On the other hand, I’m gay and breasts just don’t do anything for me. Now a guy with a decent set of pecs (but not ridiculously oversized), now we’re talking.

    • @delirious_owl
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      5 hours ago

      I mean, sure. But also need to switch from our current US American view that sexuality is bad

      • @ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        98 hours ago

        Idk, I feel like for some people it is and for some it isn’t.

        Like tbh I’d be worried about going to a nudist resort because (despite the trope that “only people you don’t want to see go there”) if I saw a woman I was attracted to I’d be worried that it would be…uh…evident, and that seems awkward and idk if it’s like, allowed to become tumescent even if it is an uncontrollable biological response (never stopped anyone from being mad it happened before, so…)

        Idk, if I saw a woman walking down the street tits akimbo, I’d definitely be more inclined to think “ayy hell yeah” in my head than not, even if it happened daily, I can’t just stop being attracted to women, ya know?

        Not that I think she shouldn’t, it’s her right and I wouldn’t complain about seeing them, but I can’t control my uncontrollable biological responses of “attraction” nor what happens naturally when “attracted,” if you will (though outside of nudist resorts, it’s hidable enough because clothes.)

        • @pingveno@lemmy.world
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          111 minutes ago

          I’m gay. Personally, I’ve just never had trouble in situations with non-sexual nudity. I’ve been to nude beaches, about ten of my city’s World Naked Bike Ride, and of course locker rooms. Plenty of hot guys around, it’s hard not to notice, but never had the smallest issue with anything being evident. It feels like it’s largely based on the setting.

          • @ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Idk I feel like that is also highly dependant on your individual body. I know guys who never become engorged (without the help of modern medicine of course), and grown ass men that have never even fell out of that teenage “random boner” phase which we all surely have at least a passing familiarity with, and everywhere in between. I’d say I’m in between, the randos are gone, but they are easily triggered in certain circumstances.

        • @ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de
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          22 hours ago

          You could bring a towel and casually hold it in front of the happy area. Maybe people will know what’s going on but they also know you’re trying. We’re all human.

          • @ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            259 minutes ago

            Good to know, is that like, common etiquette in all of them? Not that I’m planning on going anytime soon anyway but I guess it’s good to know just in case!

            • @ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de
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              231 minutes ago

              It’s not even mandatory to be nude, at least the ones I know in Germany. So you could get accustomed to it slowly. As long as you’re not staring, you’re fine.

              In Sylt, a German Island, the nude and dog beaches are mixed.

              • @ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                112 minutes ago

                Huh, good to know, I did indeed think those places were mandatory to be nude at like the resort type places. I know they specifically have “clothing optional beaches” (not in my country afaik, but still), and those I figured were optional as they say, but I may hold a misconception about the “nudist resorts” proper.

                Glad the dogs can be nude on the beaches though! Lol :D

        • @NatakuNox@lemmy.world
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          46 hours ago

          Boiling it down to a purely biological process is oversimplified. Unless you are getting aroused whenever you see an attractive person, simply removing clothing isn’t/shouldn’t be a variable. You’ve been socially conditioned to think of all nudity as sexual. Spending time in a nudist area is somewhat about decoupling nudity and sex. (yes there are those that go for the sex, and it’s kinda the leading reason.) I think the point of being human is all about control over ones self and environment. Hell humans have spent more time on this earth walking around naked than clothed. Our current views on nudity and sexuality is relatively new due to social, political, religious, and practical reasons. (you don’t want someone nude preparing large amounts of food or people in hospitals being needlessly naked for obvious reasons.) Ultimately I’m saying if you are worried about being in a public nudity area and not being able to separate the other human from their body/attractiveness, it might be something you should explore. So you can be more open to others in general.

          • @ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            15 hours ago

            I mean, yeah, I see an attractive (especially scantily clad or nude) woman, and I do indeed think “damn hell yeah” every single time. Yes. Been this way my entire life and I don’t see an end in sight. I mean it’s not like I’m gonna knock her over the head and drag her into my hut but will I look? Yeah. Could I get a boner (that would likely go unnoticed unless we were at the aforementioned nudist resort)? Yeah absolutely, could happen. Sure, maybe it’s been social conditioning since I was like 11 but at the same time it still “is,” sometimes people don’t think it be like it is, but it do, even if the reason for it “being” is 30+yr of social conditioning.

            I think that the notion that we exist to control our environment is comforting, but hubris. We exist in our environment and absolutely do not have a control of most of it. Like in this example, I can control my reaction in that I don’t become a sex crazed rapebeast every time “titty,” but I cannot control “mmm hell yeah titty.” Frankly, I’m not sure I want to. Hell yeah titty! What is wrong with me having a sexual nature as a human after all? I’m not sure liking boobs counts as a kink really (it certainly isn’t paraphilia) but “don’t kink shame me,” really.

            Sure, cavemen may have been naked and if I was raised as a caveman perhaps I’d like titty less. Buuuut it’s 2024, and I’ve been raised in this world, where I do in fact like boobs.

            Really it isn’t an issue for me as far as I’m concerned, excepting my hesitancy to walk around naked myself at a nudist resort because I don’t want to possibly have an embarrassing boner. It may be an issue for people who want to walk around tits akimbo and still not have them be seen or who have a problem with me liking seeing them, but they’ve chosen to be naked in public and so a certain amount of “being seen” has to be expected.

    • soapyplasm
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      1320 hours ago

      I agree. There’s such shame and disgust around the work of art that is the human body that really needs to be worked on.