• Svengarlic
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    7110 months ago

    Sadly this will only be watched as justice porn for the left, the right won’t even care.

    • Flying SquidOP
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      8310 months ago

      Everyone likes justice porn in America. The OJ trial was one of the most watched TV events in history at the time.

    • @NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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      3310 months ago

      I don’t know about that. An awful lot of conservatives are bending over backwards to explain why Trump was justified in breaking the law multiple times. They certainly do care, and some people have even died over it. Remember the guy who tried to go after the FBIfield office in Cincinnati, OH?

      • Svengarlic
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        1610 months ago

        I’ve heard some arguments saying that if Trump “knew” the election was rigged, he had a moral imperative to do whatever was necessary to maintain the union. The fact that the charges exist at all is proof of conspiracy, and the trial is just a parade. While I don’t agree, it’s hard to get thru to people that don’t agree on the same objective reality.

        • @NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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          1510 months ago

          Turns out if you lie often enough and about something and just keep repeating it, people will start to believe it.

          There’s unfortunately, also some evidence to the contrary that he privately knew he lost and did all this crap anyway.

          Nevermind the phone call where he asked the Georgia secretary of state to find him 11,780 votes. But, if that’s not enough to convince people he’s making shit up, nothing will convince them.

          Unfortunately, I’m dumb at psychology, and I have no idea how you would deprogram these people.

        • @jtk@lemmy.sdf.org
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          110 months ago

          The argument that someone saying they “knew” something, without being able to provide a shred of evidence to support the claim, is somehow direct proof of said claim is, flat out, retarded. They’re not logicians.

      • @evatronic@lemm.ee
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        910 months ago

        Yeah. While I absolutely have a bias and want to see this fucker convicted, I feel like no matter what, it’s going to have at least one “Where were you when…” moment.

        Almost every generation has a couple. Where were you when JFK was shot? When the Challenger exploded? During 9/11? When Columbia burned up?

        I mean, obviously, reading the verdict is going to be there, but I feel like there’s going to be some real courtroom horseshit / ooohhhh shiiit moments too.

        • @Zink@programming.dev
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          510 months ago

          Wouldn’t it be grand if we could end it on a high note, and stop thinking “I’m living through history” every 1-3 years?

          Oh, to know boredom.

        • @tburkhol@lemmy.world
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          510 months ago

          I was alive for the Columbia explosion, 9/11, the Challenger explosion, and Reagan’s attempted assassination. I saw them all as highlight reels on TV hours after the facts. I saw OJ’s glove escapade on the evening news. I expect there to be a Trump trial moment like that, but I don’t need to see it live, and I definitely don’t need to sit through hour after hour of courtroom procedure waiting to see that one moment.

          I’m glad the trial will be recorded for posterity. That seems like the best way to answer claims of shenanigans in any trial. Actually watching the trial, all the way through, seems a little too much like watching Nascar hoping to see a big crash.

          • Cosmic Cleric
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            seems a little too much like watching Nascar hoping to see a big crash.

            NASCAR is not just about watching cars going around in a circle waiting for a crash.

            It’s “a day at the beach” for those who don’t have an ocean nearby. Tailgate parties and beautiful people dressed for the occasion. A reason to relax and enjoy.

              • Cosmic Cleric
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                110 months ago

                Username checks out.

                In case you meant that as a slight, I live on one of the coasts, and have never been to a NASCAR event.

                • @jtk@lemmy.sdf.org
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                  110 months ago

                  Not a slight, it was a mademesmile perspective. Something a Cosmic Cleric might say when someone belittles something they don’t fully understand. I’ve never been to one either but the comment made me want to go to there.

      • @jtk@lemmy.sdf.org
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        210 months ago

        Never thought an empty old man, twiddling his thumbs, would draw me in more than the countless content streaming services have to offer, but here we are.

    • @Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world
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      710 months ago

      I think it’s going to be the exact opposite. They’ll make a mockery of the justice system and turn it into a circus. The media will report every day and Drumph will keep his name continuously talked about. Meanwhile his team will watch what is reported nightly so they can strategize a narrative for “his viewers” while at the same time going as close to whatever line(s) as they can without crossing, but still keeping it a spectacle. It’ll be even worse than the 4 years he was president.

      • PeleSpirit
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        710 months ago

        Alex Jones tried that, it didn’t really work out for him. It will depend on the judge.

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          Perhaps, but Alex could never say “you can’t do that to an ex-president.”

          Jones did say all kinds of other dumb shit, but not that.

          Trump also has a slightly more rabid following.

          Trump will just play the wounded lamb for a nationwide audience, 1/3rd of which will lap it up.

          • @Dkarma@lemmy.world
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            410 months ago

            Trials are about the facts tho and as they come out frump can’t really attack the facts. He can’t speak out during the trial so I’m not sure what you guys think he’s gonna even be able to do much less get away with.

            The place where it’ll matter is in the breakdowns by pundits. It will be very hard for the right wing machine to build viable defense talking points when the facts are so clear.

            • @jtk@lemmy.sdf.org
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              410 months ago

              Their defense is already established. It’s a “witch hunt”, “corruption”, “politically motivated”. Delegitimizing the current authority, where this kind of act is deemed illegal, is the goal. We have too many “uneducated” people, looking for “love”, in this country.

              • @Dkarma@lemmy.world
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                110 months ago

                True, but u saw him lose a lot of support during the Jan 6th trials as they simply played the videos from that day. The trial will be largely the same. Evidence presented, cut and dry and there’s no ability for the right wing news cycle to spin this as not a crime.

      • @jtk@lemmy.sdf.org
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        410 months ago

        They cross the lines every day. Just a little. Problem is, the lines moves to compensate, instead of standing their ground.

    • athos77
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      610 months ago

      I was going to say that the conspiracy theorists would watch it simply to figure out all the ways this is a Jewish-space-laser-controlled judge presiding over an adrenochrome -addicted jury, with all the officers of the court being lizardmen in humanskin.

      Then I realized that was simply too much effort for them; they’ll just get their conspiracies from Fox and Tucker, and Joe Rogan as usual.