• @ThePenitentOne
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    46 months ago

    What is the metric for fairness here? And what version of 'capitalism' are we talking about?

    • @Flumsy@feddit.de
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      26 months ago

      Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.

      The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the "social market economy" in Germany where I currently live.

      • @irmoz@reddthat.com
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        6 months ago

        everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom

        But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?

        Hell no, man. No one will work at my shop if they're allowed to do what they want.

        Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all).

        Fuck yeah man! That's how we do it! That's what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street! That's what I'm talkin' about!

        • @Flumsy@feddit.de
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          26 months ago

          But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?

          By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.

          That's how we do it! That's what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!

          Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?

          • @irmoz@reddthat.com
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            06 months ago

            By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.

            Who says I should do that? It's my prerogative to do what I can to make money. Don't try and regulate my ambition, you totalitarian communist.

            Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?

            Absolutely nowhere, I say! Only people with gumption deserve to live!

            • @Flumsy@feddit.de
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              46 months ago

              You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.

              Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?

              • @irmoz@reddthat.com
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                6 months ago

                I have plenty arguments. They were all written down for me by Adam Smith and improved by Milton Friedman.

                • @Flumsy@feddit.de
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                  26 months ago

                  Whats your point? I explained why I find capitalism to be a fair system and further elaborated on what I concidered "fair". What are you trying to say or are you just trolling?

                  • @irmoz@reddthat.com
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                    16 months ago

                    I also agree it's fair. It fairly allows me to extract value from people as I sit back and do nothing. That's the pursuit of happiness in action, baby!