I know the topic of whether adblock is piracy is debated, but I am guessing there are a lot of adblock users here and I was wondering if anyone has seen the youtube adblock warning message in the wild. I use ublock origin and still haven’t seen it once.

  • @Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I don’t see how YouTube can be abusive

    Do you also not see how a Tyrant boss that screams and belittles their employees is being abusive? The employees are free to quit and find work elsewhere right? Oh wait, freedom to avoid abusive behaviour doesn’t make that behaviour non-abusive!

    I’ll also add that Youtube’s ads aren’t the only way you ‘pay’ for the service. They gobble up all the data they can glean from your interactions with them. So much data most people don’t even really understand how much they’re giving away. This data is sold sure, but it is also used to inform the algorithm on how to make the service more addictive to the users. That is to say, some of the abuse is insidious. Are drug dealers paragons of virtue when they offer free samples?

    No other service advertises as obtrusively as Youtube does. Twitch comes close. The reasons they get away with this are:

    • the service is designed to be addictive, and

    • they have an effective monopoly. No other free service (and paid for that matter) comes close.

    Both easily defined as abusive.

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      Personally, I don’t see how YouTube can be abusive. It is their platform and they can do whatever they want with it. It is your choice if you use it or not. If you think the ads are out of control, you can pay for their subscription or use free services.

      Personally, I don’t see how people using adblockers can be abusive. It is their computer and they can display whatever content they want with it. It is their choice whether an ad plays on it or not. If YouTube thinks the adblockers are out of control, they can start paying people money to watch content on YouTube’s computers.

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      Just because you think making you watch ads make it abusive doesn’t mean it is.

      Why do you hold the voice of truth? I just told you, I don’t think it is abusive because that is giving more money to content creators. If you think it is abusive, stop using the service. Also, you knew about the data they are mining and you’re still using the service. Do you think others are blind to the fact Google collects data? They just don’t care, like you.

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        Do you also think the husband isn’t being abusive because the battered wife let the food get cold? ‘It is not abusive because he gets a hot meal out of it’. That’s what you sound like.

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          So you’re saying YouTube is an abusive husband and you’re a wife who can’t get away from that relation because you’re too afraid for your life or your children’s future?

          I never saw it like that. I hope YouTube doesn’t kill you or take away your children.

          You’re comparing very serious cases with the most ridiculous type of dependency ever. You’re comparing an abusive employer/employee relation with YouTube making you watch ads. Holy shit. A husband beating the shit out of his wife with YouTube making you watch ads.

          What’s next, are you going to compare this with African-American slavery? A level 7 intergalactic species dominating the milky way and extracting resources from defenseless planetary systems?

          I really need to know what’s next.