Rebecca Joynes allegedly became pregnant after having sex with one of her victims, known as boy B, Manchester Crown Court heard - she denies the allegations against her.

Rebecca Joynes allegedly became pregnant after having sex with one of her victims, known as boy B, Manchester Crown Court heard - she denies the allegations against her.

Rebecca Joynes denies having sex with the two boys but admitted, in Manchester Crown Court, to having broken safeguarding rules by being in contact with them on Snapchat and having them back to her apartment in Salford Quays.

The 30-year-old was already suspended from her job and on bail for alleged sexual activity with boy A, 15, when she allegedly took the virginity of a second boy, known as boy B, 16, who she later became pregnant by.

Joynes denies that any sexual activity took place with boy A - whose semen was recovered from her bedsheets.

  • Chozo
    20•2 months ago

    That’s because the victims are children, and there are limitations to what you can publish about children in cases like this.

    • gregorumEnglish
      29•2 months ago

      She can express empathy for the victims as well as shame and remorse, without naming them specifically. Apparently, she only regrets the consequences that she, herself, is suffering.

      The responsibility to keep the victims’ names obfuscated is that of the publisher(s)/media, not her, and could easily be edited from any statement she made containing them.

      • Chozo
        17•2 months ago

        Ah, I thought you were referring to the reporting of the article instead of her testimony, my bad.

        • gregorumEnglish
          16•2 months ago

          Oh, my, no. The identities of the victims should certainly be protected. I was just commenting that the teacher appears to have no concern for the impact of her actions upon her victims, only that of the consequences upon herself.

            • gregorumEnglish
              3•2 months ago

              It’s revelatory of her grasp (or lack thereof) of the power dynamic which exists in these situations, and how she doesn’t understand the imbalance— and the impact/consequences on the victims. There’s an element of both narcissism and general sociopathy involved in some types of pederasty and pedophelia.

              But there’s a lot that’s unknown about the disorder, and it’s also a field that carries tremendous taboo fin mental health (those who try to treat it and/or research it rather than simply punish it severely meet massive resistance, professional blacklisting, etc.), so learning about it - and how to treat it - progresses slowly. Which is a bad thing, for everyone because ignoring the problem won’t make it vanish. The public just wants to pillory and execute pedophiles, butt that doesn’t help with things like treatment and prevention.

              If we want to stop pedophiles - or, better, identify them before they act so they can be treated and victims can never be created - we need to know more than we do now.

                • gregorumEnglish
                  12•2 months ago
                  1. If murder is wrong, then murder is wrong. Just because the State does it doesn’t magically make it ok.
                  2. The death penalty has never been proven to be a deterrent to any crime
                  3. the death penalty had been proven to cost many times the cost of lifetime incarceration, sometimes between 300%-700%, all being paid by the taxpayer, sometimes resulting in the release of the perpetrator.
                  4. in car too many cases to be considered a “simple mistake”, later evidence has been used to exonerate death row inmates, proving that lives would have been lost due to failures of the justice system which could not have been rectified should the defendants had been executed. In such cases, the justice system would have failed. 5.vengeance is not justice. Anyone claiming relief from witnessing the death of a criminal perpetrator: beware of anyone who thirsts for blood, for they do not discriminate as to the source.
                • 520
                  3•2 months ago

                  Eh, replace death with life-without-parole imprisonment and I’m onboard.

                  If you think about it, LWP is a far worse fate.