we appear to be the first to write up the outrage coherently too. much thanks to the illustrious @self

    • @radivojevic
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      102 months ago

      I recommend you get your own domain, then you can’t ever lose your email.

      • flere-imsaho
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        2 months ago

        sure. because domains can be bought, not only temporarily leased.

        • @superkret@feddit.org
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          -22 months ago

          Not sure why that’s relevant. There are domains that have been in use by the same owner for 39 years now.
          That’s longer than anything I’ve ever owned.

        • @radivojevic
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          -32 months ago

          I don’t know anyone who has “lost” a domain (besides incompetence). You can be pedantic if you like, but domain ownership allows you to transfer everything to wherever and no one in a realistic example can take it away from you.

          • flere-imsaho
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            72 months ago

            sure. tell that to people who used the .af domains; or learn more about shenanigans with the various oceanian TLDs, or who owns the .io domain, and why.

            the fact is that you don’t own the domain name, and it’s always one missed card payment (or registrar changing hands and losing your card data) from being lost, and then your best chance is arbitrage.

            it’s one of these things that you have to understand when you start self-hosting anything.

            • @froztbyte@awful.systems
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              52 months ago

              or registrar changing hands

              or registrar “forgetting” renewal settings… conveniently soon after they introduced new at-checkout products

            • @radivojevic
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              12 months ago

              It’s important to choose the right tld. It’s also incompetence to not pay, so that doesn’t count, as I said.

          • @self@awful.systems
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            62 months ago

            you’ve never heard of a single example of anyone losing a domain due to legal maneuvering, trusting the wrong TLD (ie a bunch of lgbt folks losing their domains when the TLD’s administrating country decided not to give them service), or a plain ol registrar fuckup?

            you’re far too inexperienced to be opining on self-hosting email, then

            • @radivojevic
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              12 months ago

              Name an individual who uses their domain solely for personal email who lost a domain due to legal maneuvering.