• BigMacHole@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Exactly! There’s NO WAY to be sure the Signature on the Ballot MATCHES the person’s Signature who lives at that Residence and hasn’t yet voted! It’s IMPOSSIBLE! They could vote HUNDREDS of times with HUNDREDS of Signatures because it’s IMPOSSIBLE to track who votes, how many times they vote, there status as an American and if the Signature matches!

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      3 months ago

      I wasn’t implying anything here, no need to be a dick about it. Like I said: I’m my country we don’t have this system.

      The kind of possibilities I was thinking about were more along the lines of an abusive spouse forcing their partner to sign a ballot, someone stealing a neighbours ballot out of their mailbox and forging their signature, or some family member doing the same to other family members.

      Signatures can be forged quite easily if you have access to other signatures from that person, so I was honestly wondering what kind of system they have in place to ensure the kind of things mentioned above don’t happen.

      Also, I guess I was kind of assuming ballots weren’t signed, in order to protect the anonymity of the voters, and that there was some more sophisticated system in place.

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        3 months ago

        Voting in another persons name is a felony and there have been a few people who have been caught. Its not worth it, kind of like armed robbery of a mail carrier. Quick way to get fucked by the state.

        I believe in Oregon (the pioneer in mail in voting) you’re looking at potential fines or jail time depending, with a potential mix of fraud, forgery, identity theft and other laws being broken.

        But the state has this to say:

        Is voter fraud a problem in Oregon?

        ​​​​​​​No. Oregon elections are secure and protected against voter fraud in all but exceedingly rare instances. In 2020, out of millions of votes cast, residents and local elections officials reported 140 instances of potential voter fraud. Of these 140 cases, four cases were referred to the Oregon Department of Justice and two of those are pending resolution.​

        By comparison, in 2018 there were a total of 84 total reports of voter fraud. Two were referred to the Department of Justice.

        A review of the vote by mail system​ by the state’s Legislative Fiscal Office found from 2000-2019 there were approximately 61 million ballots cast. Of those, 38 criminal convictions of voter fraud were obtained. This amounts to a .00006% rate. ​

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      3 months ago

      Your style of sarcasm is so well done, nobody realizes the /s is implied. A+++ seller, would buy vote AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!