• trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 months ago

    docker preinstalled

    This is actually perfect. My main issue with EL distros is that they tend to push podman, which is not a 1-to-1 replacement for docker. This may end up being my default for non-immutable OS installs.

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      3 months ago

      I’m trying to learn Podman because Fedora atomic is the way I want to go right now, but getting firewalld to cooperate is enraging. Are you hitting problems other than that?

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        3 months ago

        Oddly enough: SELinux and file ownership for bind mounts were pretty hellish for me, even with :z. Granted, that’s definitely on me (skill issue) for having misconfigured SELinux policies, but docker got out of my way.

        Other than that, my gripes about podman have to do with inter-container DNS communication and having to creating systemd services to manage simple container stacks. That last one is a major thorn in my side because the podman CLI used to have a simple command to generate the systemd file for you, but they’re getting rid of it.

        I run containers locally for basic dev work and, on occasion, deploy simple self-hosted services. In both of those cases, I find Podman to be an unnecessary hindrance where Docker isn’t.

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          3 months ago

          It’s foolish to remove a tool to generate systemd files, running containerized services is one of the main uses of tools like these. That is a big disappointment.

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        3 months ago

        Try deploying the Bitwarden self-hosted stack (official, not Vaultwarden) with Podman and then you’ll see that Podman’s inter-container DNS isn’t up-to-par with Docker’s.

        Podman is not a perfect replacement for Docker and often times gets in the way.