It’s been a while since a reddit thread got me this heated.

Obviously I don’t know the full context, but often when a school resource officer is the one removing a kid it’s because they’ve refused to leave after the teacher and an administrator have asked them to. So that means the student has been potentially disrupting that class for tens of minutes before someone finally removed them. Not condoning the method but the students probably knew this was coming.

my god, TENS of minutes? TENS? POTENTIALLY DISRUPTING for TENS OF WHOLE MINUTES?

There was no violence there. There was controlled use of force. She was never stuck or choked. Her lack of cooperation with an authorized authority is what caused the event to be volatile. I am confident of two things. First this is not the beginning of this incident. Second this person was given a choice. She made at least two bad choices to end up in this situation. Rebels and protesters don’t think about all the costs involved in the final purchase. Usually they don’t end up paying it either.

why are you confident of that lmao

My kid would have NEVER. But I went to school with students who acted out, and I didn’t bat an eye. Because if I acted out - the security at school would be a walk in the park compared to the ass whoopin I would’ve received at HOME.

all those beatings have sure turned you into a wonderful parent. “my kid would NEVER” = the kid is doing that thing every single day

Okay galaxy brain, how would you handle removing the child from the classroom if they refused to cooperate?

SO MANY PEOPLE being like “what’s the alternative? what were they supposed to do??”, the redditor mind can really only conceive of things happening that end in clips. The idea of having a conversation is beyond the imagination, violence is the only conceivable outcome.

What a surprise she’s black /s 🤦‍♂️

and now you see laid bare the thought that every other poster thought before making their post

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      Not what antinatalism is. None of the people im that thread are antinatalists.

      Edit: to further “go off”, Reddit is a site of manchildren who make more money than they should and have more time to not work than most, and is dominated by a combination of free market ethos pseudo-free speech maximalism with extremely overbearing, petty rules that exist to control the users in ways the admins and mods don’t like. It’s the exact kind of culture that craves disciplining children into little controlled pseudo-autonomous automatons. Antinatalism isn’t really factoring into this.

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        I’m not entirely as sure. When I was on reddit-logo when video of some kid getting brutalized by a cop happened it wasn’t long until “crotch goblin” or “those parents shouldn’t have bred” comments came up.

        Did it really change that much since then?

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          Antinatalism is a philosophy that functions when you don’t have a subject (that being children).

          Once you’re talking about someone who is already born, then antinatalism doesn’t apply. There’s a difference between negative eugenics (preventing births) and antinatalism which seeks to contexualize life and bringing someone into life.

          But yeah, antinatalism is a smokescreen term for what is basically mob eugenics. That’s why we should be careful to discuss antinatalism because its seen as an invitation to eugenics by those already predisposed to violent eugenics thinking.

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            So it’s more a pedantic technical argument instead of what I was saying which was that reddit-logo antinatalist communities also openly express hatred of (now living) children, even in their terminology. I used to post dunkable material from /r/AntiNatalism all the time way back in the day on places like ShitRedditSays.

            But yeah, antinatalism is a smokescreen term for what is basically mob eugenics. That’s why we should be careful to discuss antinatalism because its seen as an invitation to eugenics by those already predisposed to violent eugenics thinking.

            Agreed here at least.

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              So it’s more a pedantic technical argument

              Antinatalism exists outside of reddit-logo as a philosophical position that generally quite strongly opposes murder. If you want to talk about the misanthropy of a reddit-logo community – and here I’ll just assume your characterization of r/antinatalism is accurate because fuck that website – just refer to the community itself and not a broader and much older term.

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                and here I’ll just assume your characterization of r/antinatalism is accurate because fuck that website

                That’s where my rant was focused, from the start, so yes your assumption is correct. That’s what I was talking about the entire time in this comment chain.

                I wrote it this way, verbatim:

                Reddit’s special blend of antinatalist craves violence against children.

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          “those parents shouldn’t have bred” comments came up.

          That often isn’t anti-natalist, but malthusian, classist, racist and ableist though. Sometimes it intersects and can be more than one thing.

          Reddit craves violence against children.

          Is objectively true though.

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            I was ranting about Reddit’s specific antinatalist community, with the sub named for the concept and all. If you think they’re doing the ideology wrong, take it up with them.