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    It can stay scheduled. But it should be schedule 4 - low potential for abuse, low risk of dependence.

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        It is not physically addictive. If your life sucks and you use it to cope, you’ll be cranky when you stop, same as if you used trash TV to cope but your cable goes out.

        You cannot overdose on pot. You can try, and the worst that will happen is that you’ll fall asleep. It is not dangerous on its own.

        Don’t like the schedule 4 distinction? Fine, pick another. But having it set to schedule 1, same as heroin and PCP, is insane and 100% politically motivated.

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          Weed is actually physically addictive just much less so than other drugs. Heavy users can’t sleep or eat, and have bad neausea and GI issues for weeks after quiting. That’s literally all physical withdrawal. If you’re someone who says oh I smoke and can quit whenever and don’t have those problems then I can tell you, you aren’t smoking nearly as much weed as some other people lol.

          I’m not against weed, I use it all the time, but it is absolutely physically addictive. More so than caffeine.

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          It is not physically addictive. If your life sucks and you use it to cope, you’ll be cranky when you stop, same as if you used trash TV to cope but your cable goes out.

          I see you have meet an ex of mine. Totally useless and unable to do anything after work except watch 3 hours of the same TV shows she grew up with. No, we didn’t break up over this. It was mildly annoying not relationship breaking.

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          It is physically addictive.

          Schedule 1 is bullshit but schedule 4 is too lax… schedule 3 would be the best fit… also on the topic, benzos should absolutely be ranked higher than 4.

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          There are absolutely withdrawal symptoms for cannabis use. Lethality is not the criteria used to determine abuse or dependence potential.

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            He didn’t say no withdrawal symptoms, but in any event, that’s not relevant. Caffeine and nicotine both have withdrawal symptoms comparable in severity. Now if you want to discuss withdrawal from benzodiazepines or alcohol there is a lot of work there. Why aren’t they scheduled as aggressively? Because if the medical applications and from appetite stimulation in oncology patients to ptsd, marijuana has justifiable benefits.

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            It is more than can possibly be consumed by any person in a single lifetime, and there’s no concentration of that amount in existence.

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                No it’d be unreasonable if you were trying in a full-scale lab with sci-fi grade vats of pure THC. The LD50 is 1270mg per 1kg; or 101,600mg for an average American adult. For example that’s about twice as toxic as table salt or about 10 times less toxic than caffeine. If you were to fall in a vat of pure d9 THC suspended in any solution, you would drown before you could be exposed to enough to meet the LD50. If you got out of the vat without drowning, you would not die from the THC, literally it would be impossible. Additionally, at the rate it is metabolized by the body, that 101,600mg needs to happen within about a half hour. If you spread that exposure out over a day, you literally cannot die from it. To really emphasize this, if you’re a functional adult eating 2,000 calories of the highest density gummy available on the market (25mg d9 thc x 10 cal) per day, getting all of your nutrition from THC gummies, you would be ingesting around 5,000mg of d9 THC that day; remember you need 101,600mg per hour to reach the LD50.

                It is literally not physically possible to ingest enough to overdose, and injecting it does nothing. It is easier to accidentally overdose on water than it is d9 THC.