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Both sides support genocide and rascism. The only difference is aestheics and cultural signifiers
Trump wants to build the wall and do genocide because be is racist.
Harris wants to build the wall and do genocide because it is good for the economy.
They are clearly not the same.
We are constantly making the mistake in Russia of judging the slogans and tactics of a certain party or group, of judging its general trend, by the intentions or motives that the group claims for itself. Such judgement is worthless. The road to hell—as was said long ago—is paved with good intentions.
It is not a matter of intentions, motives or words but of the objective situation, independent of them, that determines the fate and significance of slogans, of tactics or, in general, of the trend of a given party or group.
~ V.I Lenin Word And Deed
If both parties are doing the same shit, it doesn’t fucking matter why
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On the left is racism AND genocide. But you knew that already, you’re just happy to mislead.
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It would be one thing if you only talked about the policies being essentially the same and having the same outcomes.
But you brought up rhetoric, and the rhetoric is not the same, and that gives people leeway in saying you’re being misleading.
So being racist towards Palestinians isn’t racist? Is that what you’re saying?
Are you just going to ignore the racist and xenophobic talking points by Harris about how immigrants are bringing fentanyl to kill US citizens? Or Harris bringing up the factually incorrect claims about Hamas members and Palestinian men sexually assaulting Israelis, based on racist colonial tropes. Or how Harris was a top prosecutor that spent her entire career locking up minorities. I could go on and on, the entire debate consisted of the candidates trying to outdo each other with the amount of racism they were spewing.
You’re doing a fine job of ignoring Donald’s ¯\(ツ)/¯
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Is “comrade” supposed to be an insult? People aren’t embarrassed that they’re Communists.
You’re doing a fine job of ignoring Harris’s.
But I’m not?
whatabout Trump 
Oh come on, it’s a false equivalence on its face. How many other options are there?
All trumpanzees so obviously need to be rounded up and shot that it’s not even worth mentioning. It’s libs like you that need to be called out for trying to use faux progressivism to justify the exact same shit trumpanzees want.
As opposed to the very authentic progressivism of rounding up and shooting political opponents?
People like you are why reconstruction went the way it did
If you can’t reach your ideal democracy without executing dissidents, that’s not democracy.
‘Dissidents’ like they’re some powerless minority being oppressed and that their dissent isn’t over the value of human life. This is why we say that liberals are the same as fascists. “Sorry freemen, if we crack down on the whites killing you and passing black codes, it’s just not a democracy!”
If you can’t stop a genocide electorally, that’s not democracy.
It’s not news to anyone that Trump is a massive piece of shit.
So you acknowledge Kamala is pro-genocide?
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Well yeah, like the intelligent and capable kind of genocide, but surely not the racist kind
Not in the way that you want. But you’ve already decided so why waste my breath?
What other way is there to be pro-genocide? I guess you feel there needs to be some other option since you’re a genocide supporter yourself
You’re trying a little too hard to discourage people from voting for Harris. That is, it’s a little too obvious.
They just don’t like genocide and she supports a genocide. Everyone knows Trump does, so there’s is no need to say anything about it, but Democrats like to pretend they don’t. If that makes you feel uncomfortable for supporting her, it probably should. Genocide was considered the biggest possible evil in the world until the Dems started supporting it, too. The fact that it seems wrong is why people talk about it, because liberals say they feel bad about it so some of them can be pushed on the issue to resolve this contradiction through to doing something about it, while Republicans gleefully cheer for it, so there’s no reason trying to convince them to do anything.
We need to live in those uncomfortable feelings because it might actually force us to think about them and change some shit, or to at least realize the system is fundamentally broken. It can prompt questions, like If we can’t vote out a genocide, do we live in a good democracy? Why are some issues up for debate and not other issues? If our system and democracy is broken, should we be stomping around the world criticizing others’ in Venezuela, China, Cuba, Mexico, Bolivia, etc? Is there a different reason we do so, like imperialism? Have other claims about the US being the good guy at all times been wrong as well? What current propaganda are we buying into? When people confront these wrongs and ask questions about why things are the way they are, it can also encourage them to study history and capitalism to find out why.
Or, you can be like those outside the DNC, rushing past the protestors, closing your eyes and plugging your ears, then act surprised and distraught when your life is made worse because the adventures abroad from candidates you supported blow back on us through terrorism, fascism, and immigration. But if we never think about the contradictions of our own positions and policies, we’re no better than the cult of Republicans, are we?
The Biden administration (of which she is a part) continues to send weapons to a state that is openly using those weapons to commit a genocide, and Kamala has plainly stated she has no intention of stopping the flow of those weapons. What other way am I supposed to interpret this, exactly, other than her being pro-genocide?
“Not in the way you want”
Oh fuck you, how put upon. You’re the real victim here, having to deal with moral scorn. Boo fucking hoo.
in the right is racism and genocide, but in way that’s palatable to libs, you’re just happy to mislead
The right is genocide AND rascism. But you knew that already, you’re just happy to be self-decieved
And Trump’s solution to the genocide is nuking Gaza.
If you’re using Harris’s stance on Palestine/Israel as a reason to not vote for her, you’re an idiot.
You are complicit in genocide.
lmao
Common genocide supporter comment
Don’t forget rape!
Blue MAGA has proven that’s not a deal breaker for them either lol
Something something Tara Reade is a Russian agent
Ding ding. In addition to Bill Clinton and Hillary covering up for him. And Epstein, but thats the whole ruling class
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[https://thecradle.co/articles-id/26397](Inside Isreal’s torture, rape and dehumanization centers)
Agreed, no rapist or rapist supporter can ever be trusted with power
The left candidate on the right and the right candidate on the left has me confused about what she these comments are on.
There’s no left candidate here though. Only two genocidal capitalists
Very true, for purposes of this comment, I’d mean relative to each other.
Best line I’ve heard yet on the issue
How do you like your shit served?
Having a fringe lunatic as plausible opposition actually works really great in a two-party system, as the Democrats can really focus on policy for lobbyists and not so much on policy for the electorate. Just point out that the other guy would be worse.
It’s even worse this time, Kamala is running to the right of Trump in 2016 regarding Immigrants, so you can see in real time Trump jump to go even further right, like the cats and dogs bit.
Which of these candidates do you think will be more willing to have their minds changed with protests and petitions?
Nothing is going to be easy or perfect, but we can at least choose the most likely candidate that is slightly more aligned with our desired outcome and then fight for what is needed.
Obviously neither, and anybody who claims otherwise is not engaging with reality.
zero equals zero
Neither, American support for genocide has an economic basis and both candidates serve Capital.
sry, wrong sub, people here want trump to win xD
Need to add Jill Stein and Chase Oliver to the mix to fully embrace how weak all our candidates are.
My dad gave me a choice between a pair of skates or a 10 year old used car when I turned 18 but I refused both and told him I wanted a brand new car. I ended up with a pair of skates. Getting to work was hard the next 4 years.
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I’m 13 and this is deep.
So voting for genocide is as easy to shitlibs as it is to buy skates. Good to know.
