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    shelter is a human necessity. It is wrong to hoard shelter while there are people who have none.

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      Rental property owners don’t hoard shelter. The whole point is to provide housing to individuals and families.

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        providing and selling are 2 different things (renting is just selling the limited use of something)

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            So every business is a provider in your eyes? You would say that McDonald’s provides food for everyone? That’s ridiculous and not the way anyone uses the word provide it’s just been brought into landlording to make leeches feel better about themselves

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              No, McDonald’s only provides food for those who choose to buy it. Not everyone eats at McDonald’s.

              Rental property owners aren’t leeches. Leeches are the tenants who use the service the landlord provides and don’t pay for it.

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        hoard (verb.)
        To accumulate money, food, or the like, in a hidden or carefully guarded place for preservation, future use, etc.

        Rental property owners don’t hoard shelter.

        I might be inclined to agree with you if landlords took out the locks and made those empty rental properties into interim homeless shelters, but we both know they would never do it.

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          Rental properties aren’t hidden. There’s no cloak of invisibility spell surrounding them. So your definition doesn’t apply.

          Rental properties aren’t empty except during renovation or between tenants. So your second assertion also doesn’t apply.

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              Again, there’s no hoarding.

              The article you linked is misleading. Houses are vacant for various reasons. Some are temporarily vacant:

              • some are undergoing renovations
              • some are between tenants
              • some are for sale

              Some are more permanently vacant because they’re in such a state of disrepair that they can’t be lived in.

              Rental property owners rent out properties, which keeps people housed and off the streets. However there’s been a lack of housing development over the past decade in the United States which leads to a housing shortage.

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                Some are more permanently vacant because they’re in such a state of disrepair that they can’t be lived in.

                Gee, I wonder who’s responsibility it was to make sure that didn’t happen. ¯\(ツ)

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                  The homeowners who let their house rot because they couldn’t afford to fix it or they just didn’t care? There’s been so many foreclosures that were blights on the neighborhood until investors bought them, fixed them up, and rented them to families who wanted a nice place to live.