I used to be like these types, and then I realized a lot of leftists, or more specifically Marxists base their entire political ideology off of theory that’s like 200 years old. Marx was writing at the peak of the Industrial Revolution probably when capitalism was in its most grotesque form (child labour, no regulations etc.) there’s no way in hell Marx could have ever imagined the complex world we live in today.
And also evolution is false because On the Origin of Species was written 200 years ago and there’s no way Darwin could’ve accounted for all the complexities the molecular biology revolution revealed in trait heritability.
Also why do liberals like to pretend their own theory doesn’t predate Marx by decades or centuries. Marx was literally building on top of existing liberal theory
They have guys like Hobbes, who died in 1679. They’ll regularly quote Plato or Aristotle too. Ask them what western society is based on and they’ll start saying nerd shit about the Manga Carta or ancient Rome. Liberals are so unserious
God can you imagine if we lived in a hellishly cruel and exploitative world of industrial genocides, child labor and deregulation, like in the dirty stinky past? Then those communists might have a point, haha
Once I had someone try to refuse communism with something like “Marx was writing at a time where everything was made in factories. Times have changed.”
ok which star trek replicator did your clothes come from mr liberal
You mean to tell me that the people making all commodities aren’t making $300k/yr and working from home with their output coordinated through a series of gig economy apps? I don’t know about that, sounds pretty old fashioned.
Nonono neoliberalism fixed all that, look at the global extreme poverty graph, the line is going down! (Please don’t look at what happens when you take China out).
There’s probably a whole effortpost to be done on the sketchiness that is global extreme poverty headcount measurement. I’ll have to add it to my to do list after visualizing per-capita greenhouse gas emissions.
base their entire political ideology off of theory that’s like 200 years old
Meanwhile they base their ideology off of the prolonged vampire euphoria that ensued after the collapse of the Soviet Union and never let that go like some boomer nostalgic for that one winning touchdown that one time during the homecoming varsity game.
capitalism was in its most grotesque form (child labour, no regulations etc.)
The more advanced bazinga form of that outsources the grotesque to the poors in distant lands
they’re re-legalizing child labor in some US states, and finding illegal child labor in others. capitalism is oopsie daisy still in its most grotesque form.
It’s wild how the people who approach capitalism like it’s a religion are able to sort of just state between the lines that there isn’t child labor or how there supposedly are functioning regulations in global capitalism today. Completely ignoring the exploitation their neoliberal world order requires to maintain itself.
It’s not that complex, they are calling it complex the same way they call the Middle East complex. Understanding it would require engaging with something that takes some work. And if we ask a lib if a lib will “lib or not to lib”, the lib will always lib. Because it takes zero effort to keep on libbing.
These are probably the same people that smugly go "uhm whatabout Uighur slave labour? :smuglord: what about Muslims enslaving people? Heh didn’t think so, tankie :smuglord: "
Damn thats crazy how i don’t buy stuff produced under the command of capitalists anymore, its a very different system cause they got flatscreens. Interestingly they only produce stuff that brings them profit, another mystery why they do that just different i guess.
And also evolution is false because On the Origin of Species was written 200 years ago and there’s no way Darwin could’ve accounted for all the complexities the molecular biology revolution revealed in trait heritability.
Also why do liberals like to pretend their own theory doesn’t predate Marx by decades or centuries. Marx was literally building on top of existing liberal theory
They have guys like Hobbes, who died in 1679. They’ll regularly quote Plato or Aristotle too. Ask them what western society is based on and they’ll start saying nerd shit about the Manga Carta or ancient Rome. Liberals are so unserious
Using Salic Law to own the Marxists on the battlefield of ideas
God can you imagine if we lived in a hellishly cruel and exploitative world of industrial genocides, child labor and deregulation, like in the dirty stinky past? Then those communists might have a point, haha
Once I had someone try to refuse communism with something like “Marx was writing at a time where everything was made in factories. Times have changed.”
ok which star trek replicator did your clothes come from mr liberal
You mean to tell me that the people making all commodities aren’t making $300k/yr and working from home with their output coordinated through a series of gig economy apps? I don’t know about that, sounds pretty old fashioned.
Nonono neoliberalism fixed all that, look at the global extreme poverty graph, the line is going down! (Please don’t look at what happens when you take China out).
You should post what happens to !agitprop@hexbear.net
There’s probably a whole effortpost to be done on the sketchiness that is global extreme poverty headcount measurement. I’ll have to add it to my to do list after visualizing per-capita greenhouse gas emissions.
Meanwhile they base their ideology off of the prolonged vampire euphoria that ensued after the collapse of the Soviet Union and never let that go like some boomer nostalgic for that one winning touchdown that one time during the homecoming varsity game.
The more advanced bazinga form of that outsources the grotesque to the poors in distant lands
they’re re-legalizing child labor in some US states, and finding illegal child labor in others. capitalism is oopsie daisy still in its most grotesque form.
I started a podcast about end of history nostalgia and I kind of want to use prolonged vampire euphoria at least once, you mind?
Sure, “what if life-draining creatures that bring ruination to the living were sparkly and nice to people they wanted to fuck” was certainly a moment.
the Pythagorean theorum is outdated because the ancient Greeks would have fainted in terror at the sight of a protractor
It’s wild how the people who approach capitalism like it’s a religion are able to sort of just state between the lines that there isn’t child labor or how there supposedly are functioning regulations in global capitalism today. Completely ignoring the exploitation their neoliberal world order requires to maintain itself.
It’s not that complex, they are calling it complex the same way they call the Middle East complex. Understanding it would require engaging with something that takes some work. And if we ask a lib if a lib will “lib or not to lib”, the lib will always lib. Because it takes zero effort to keep on libbing.
Also child labor is still a thing in burgerland
These are probably the same people that smugly go "uhm whatabout Uighur slave labour? :smuglord: what about Muslims enslaving people? Heh didn’t think so, tankie :smuglord: "
Damn thats crazy how i don’t buy stuff produced under the command of capitalists anymore, its a very different system cause they got flatscreens. Interestingly they only produce stuff that brings them profit, another mystery why they do that
just different i guess.
If someone were to say this about their beloved constitution… And why are they acting like we aren’t facing climate crisis and potential overshoot?