• LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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    3 days ago

    The thing is, the CIA might be as villainous as tankies think it is, but it’s far less competent. They see spooks in every shadow but many, perhaps even most CIA programs have been abject failures. Not everything wrong with the world can be attributed to the CIA, influential as they may be.

    I think it the tankie mythos around them actually makes them more powerful.

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      3 days ago

      I’m sure they would love for everyone to think they’re useless failures and look away from the laundry list of fucked up yet known operations that have been successful.

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      It’s just that the CIA did sooo many fucking atrocities, that quite a few of them (most notably experiments and their silly stuff like trying to murder Castro) turned out to be failures.

      And during the Cold War the CIA was some axis of evil shit. Any time some leftists came to power in the US’s “backyard” (read the Americas and Caribbean. but tbh most of the world), you would either see a fascist coup or some either attempt to delegitimise them…

      Guess who trained the mujahedeen in Afghanistan and the contras in Nicaragua, and gave money, resources and guidance to the fascist military in Chile? (just some historic examples)

      Nowadays you still have the same shit but less. Especially in the US’s “backyard”. Like Bolivia a few yes ago bc they wanted to nationalise their resources (most notably lithium mines)

      But a lot of the time the CIA just makes the preparatory work for US Invasion (Grenada, Iraq and Afghanistan to give some examples)

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      3 days ago

      the CIA is the reason the third world adopts neoliberalism thats so bad for ourselves. western imperialism is what keeps the third world fucked, we are still rich as fuck in natural resources.