• keegomatic@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    That article is from ten years ago. I’d suspect the numbers would still be worse than they should be, but Ukraine has become a much bigger situation since then which is why you’re using it in this example, so this is not an accurate picture you’re painting.

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        18 days ago

        Do you really think Ukraine being featured prominently in American news, pop culture, political discourse, and zeitgeist in general for the past two and a half years hasn’t affected those numbers? You would not have used Ukraine in this example had it not been for the current conflict. To use numbers from ten years ago is a deliberate misrepresentation of reality.

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            17 days ago

            There was those great videos of a presenter asking people on the street to point out various countries on a world map that didn’t have the country names.

            Answers were… interesting, to say the least.

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            17 days ago

            Like I said: “I’d suspect the numbers would still be worse than they should be”

            But also, you’re doing it again. You’re saying “despite the latter [Afghanistan] lasting 20 years,” but dude you linked images from 2006. It hadn’t been 20 years yet. In fact, that data is from nearly 20 years ago!

            That is, again, extremely misleading data to support the argument you’re making.

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              17 days ago

              I literally asked why it is different today from 2006.

              How is that misleading?

              I made no attempt to hide it was from 2006.

              It’s also a question you didn’t answer. So it’s pretty rich to suggest I’m the one being dishonest here.

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                16 days ago

                How would I know if it is or isn’t different today based on your comment? How am I supposed to answer that question? By asking that, you are asserting that it is different today. Yet you have given no numbers for what it is today for the same countries on that image.

                You know that, and you are trying to sidestep me now while accusing me of sidestepping. Why is that? You said in the beginning of your comment:

                Americans couldn’t find Iraq and Afghanistan on maps during those wars despite the latter lasting 20 Years and Americans being involved in them.

                You are saying here that those wars lasted a long time, and one lasted 20 years, and despite that, Americans couldn’t find those countries on maps during those wars. But the data is from the beginning of that time period. So after 20 years yes obviously the numbers would change. But that data doesn’t say that. That data is the starting point. A lazy reader might very easily think that data supported your point. Same as your previous comment I took issue with.

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                  16 days ago

                  That’s one way to pretend you never said I was being misleading about the year when I wasn’t, I suppose.

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                    16 days ago

                    Do you have a specific rebuke for something I said where you can logically point out where I’m wrong or are you just hand-waving?